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jpean
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« on: February 14, 2008, 05:12:08 AM »

here is the hand report :

PokerStars Game #15273790139: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/02/13 - 23:59:36 (ET)
Table 'Sun V' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: julienfetus ($19.90 in chips) ME
Seat 2: Tomrulz25 ($12.95 in chips)
Seat 3: Sathok ($12 in chips)
Seat 4: santizh ($2.05 in chips)
Seat 5: niveknehc ($9.15 in chips)
Seat 6: F1oba ($2.25 in chips)
Seat 7: aldenhung ($9.85 in chips)
Seat 9: Cheer_24 ($10.85 in chips)
Tomrulz25: posts small blind $0.05
Sathok: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to julienfetus [ ]
MORADO2000 leaves the table
santizh: folds
niveknehc: folds
F1oba: folds
aldenhung: folds
Cheer_24: calls $0.10
julienfetus: raises $0.40 to $0.50
Tomrulz25: calls $0.45
Sathok: folds
Cheer_24: calls $0.40
*** FLOP *** [ Two Clubs ]
Sathok leaves the table
Tomrulz25: checks
Cheer_24: checks
julienfetus: bets $3
Tomrulz25: raises $9.45 to $12.45 and is all-in
Cheer_24: folds
julienfetus: calls $9.45
*** TURN *** [ Two Clubs ] []
*** RIVER *** [ Two Clubs ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Tomrulz25: shows [ ] (a straight, Five to Nine)
julienfetus: mucks hand
Tomrulz25 collected $25.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $26.50 | Rake $1.30
Board [ Two Clubs ]
Seat 1: julienfetus (button) mucked [ ]
Seat 2: Tomrulz25 (small blind) showed [ ] and won ($25.20) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 3: Sathok (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: santizh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: niveknehc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: F1oba folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: aldenhung folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Cheer_24 folded on the Flop


I know that I have not bad played (I called with the best hand...) BUT what about my opponent ?
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2008, 07:49:07 AM »

He has called original raise with the 86s to hit a flop like that.  With his holding that flop has hit him in the face. Your raise UTG could be anything at this level.  You have o/bet the flop as well looks like an o/p or AK when you have done this.  Personally on the flop I'd have bet a little less.

Once you bet out on the flop and get raised so much I think you can fold - its not out of the question that he has a set which is killing you just now as you have no re-draw other than hitting one of the 2 Kings.  I think with such a large raise it stinks of something like a combo, op etc.  Not sure I want to be calling.

Obviously this reply is results orientated when you have posted the result.  its hard not to when you know the outcome.

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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2008, 09:55:11 AM »

I know that I have not bad played (I called with the best hand...) BUT what about my opponent ?

Actually, you called with the worst hand:

pokenum  -h kh kd  -   -- Two Clubs
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Two Clubs
cards  win   %win  lose  %lose  tie  %tie     EV
  433  43.74   557  56.26    0  0.00  0.437
  557  56.26    433  43.74    0  0.00  0.563

I have never played a single hand of 10nl fullring in my lifetime, so I have no idea how the game plays. I would assume though, that players in this game shove 1010 - QQ and A9 after getting to this point like the preflop in this hand.

Plus, who knows if all sets, flopped two pair hands, AXc, combo draw hands would shove here. Sets may still try to trap even if the board texture is awful for it.

Anyway, my point is that getting it in here with red overpairs is hardly a fistpump situation.
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2008, 09:59:12 AM »

your not passing but if he calls with that hand there is no way its not going in on the flop imo i like the way he played it agaist your bet that reaks of a overpair
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