Who is the most overrated player of all time

[77dave]

Any English player that has the phrase 'world class' used about them would fit the bill too.

Hmmmm, Steve Gerard surely must be considered as world class?

lol, nowhere near. Just coz he is the best we have and we see him every week does not make him world class, it just makes him the best we have.

please define what makes a current world class player for me Phil

Well this sounds a little simple but to be world class you need to be the top player/or players in that position. Gerrard is simply very good but not near the top whereas players like Pirlo, Messi, the two Ronnies etc are real world class.

ronaldinho plays left mid
messi behind the front man
ronaldo plays right mid
pirlo centre mid

can you name a team in the world the gerrard cant get into  I dont rate a centre mid in the world above Gerrard

Who mentioned the positions they play in as a factor as to Gerrards class? The two ronnies are world class wide men, Messi a world class 'hole' player. That doesnt mean that gerrad is a world class centre midfielder becasue other world class players play in different positions does it?

Pirlo is diff gravy to him, Zidane was diff class to him.

If he is the best player in the world at his position  doesnt that make him world class

[bobby1]

you are right Dan, Kaka is world class too.

[dan]

My overratted player Ive ever seen............... Has to be inthebelly at bb5

[bobby1]

Any English player that has the phrase 'world class' used about them would fit the bill too.

Hmmmm, Steve Gerard surely must be considered as world class?

lol, nowhere near. Just coz he is the best we have and we see him every week does not make him world class, it just makes him the best we have.

please define what makes a current world class player for me Phil

Well this sounds a little simple but to be world class you need to be the top player/or players in that position. Gerrard is simply very good but not near the top whereas players like Pirlo, Messi, the two Ronnies etc are real world class.

ronaldinho plays left mid
messi behind the front man
ronaldo plays right mid
pirlo centre mid

can you name a team in the world the gerrard cant get into  I dont rate a centre mid in the world above Gerrard

Who mentioned the positions they play in as a factor as to Gerrards class? The two ronnies are world class wide men, Messi a world class 'hole' player. That doesnt mean that gerrad is a world class centre midfielder becasue other world class players play in different positions does it?

Pirlo is diff gravy to him, Zidane was diff class to him.

If he is the best player in the world at his position  doesnt that make him world class

Why would it, is the 3rd best golfer in the rankings world class at the side of Woods? no, he is just a very good player. If you had a wordwide set of rank average midfelders does the best one then become world class just because he is the best of the average players. It boils down to what was said earlier, coz we see em every week and read how great they are Gerrad is rated world class when for me he isnt.

[Hairydude]

Any English player that has the phrase 'world class' used about them would fit the bill too.

Hmmmm, Steve Gerard surely must be considered as world class?

  I think Stevie G is by far englands best player and would fit easily into any club squad in the world- I dont think there is any other english player you could say that about

Well I would add Rooney into that category. I don't think Terry and Ferdinand are far off getting into any team worldwide either, the rest though are not close.

Longy do you think Rooney would get in the Barcelona team?? who would he replace out of Eto, Messi, Henry or ronaldinho??

[77dave]

Any English player that has the phrase 'world class' used about them would fit the bill too.

Hmmmm, Steve Gerard surely must be considered as world class?

lol, nowhere near. Just coz he is the best we have and we see him every week does not make him world class, it just makes him the best we have.

please define what makes a current world class player for me Phil

Well this sounds a little simple but to be world class you need to be the top player/or players in that position. Gerrard is simply very good but not near the top whereas players like Pirlo, Messi, the two Ronnies etc are real world class.

ronaldinho plays left mid
messi behind the front man
ronaldo plays right mid
pirlo centre mid

can you name a team in the world the gerrard cant get into  I dont rate a centre mid in the world above Gerrard

Who mentioned the positions they play in as a factor as to Gerrards class? The two ronnies are world class wide men, Messi a world class 'hole' player. That doesnt mean that gerrad is a world class centre midfielder becasue other world class players play in different positions does it?

Pirlo is diff gravy to him, Zidane was diff class to him.

If he is the best player in the world at his position  doesnt that make him world class

Why would it, is the 3rd best golfer in the rankings world class at the side of Woods? no, he is just a very good player. If you had a wordwide set of rank average midfelders does the best one then become world class just because he is the best of the average players. It boils down to what was said earlier, coz we see em every week and read how great they are Gerrad is rated world class when for me he isnt.

So do you except that he is the best player in the world in his position

[Longy]

Any English player that has the phrase 'world class' used about them would fit the bill too.

Hmmmm, Steve Gerard surely must be considered as world class?

  I think Stevie G is by far englands best player and would fit easily into any club squad in the world- I dont think there is any other english player you could say that about

Well I would add Rooney into that category. I don't think Terry and Ferdinand are far off getting into any team worldwide either, the rest though are not close.

Longy do you think Rooney would get in the Barcelona team?? who would he replace out of Eto, Messi, Henry or ronaldinho??

Currently with Ronaldinho attitude i would have Rooney ahead of him.

Something like Messi> Henry> Rooney> Ronaldinho> Eto. But eto is different player and would play as the main striker or Henry with the other 3 competing for the other position. So in other words you may have a point, lol.

As you can tell I rate Rooney.

[bobby1]

Any English player that has the phrase 'world class' used about them would fit the bill too.

Hmmmm, Steve Gerard surely must be considered as world class?

lol, nowhere near. Just coz he is the best we have and we see him every week does not make him world class, it just makes him the best we have.

please define what makes a current world class player for me Phil

Well this sounds a little simple but to be world class you need to be the top player/or players in that position. Gerrard is simply very good but not near the top whereas players like Pirlo, Messi, the two Ronnies etc are real world class.

ronaldinho plays left mid
messi behind the front man
ronaldo plays right mid
pirlo centre mid

can you name a team in the world the gerrard cant get into  I dont rate a centre mid in the world above Gerrard

Who mentioned the positions they play in as a factor as to Gerrards class? The two ronnies are world class wide men, Messi a world class 'hole' player. That doesnt mean that gerrad is a world class centre midfielder becasue other world class players play in different positions does it?

Pirlo is diff gravy to him, Zidane was diff class to him.

If he is the best player in the world at his position  doesnt that make him world class

Why would it, is the 3rd best golfer in the rankings world class at the side of Woods? no, he is just a very good player. If you had a wordwide set of rank average midfelders does the best one then become world class just because he is the best of the average players. It boils down to what was said earlier, coz we see em every week and read how great they are Gerrad is rated world class when for me he isnt.

So do you except that he is the best player in the world in his position

Are you reading what I am writing?

Pirlo and Kaka are diff class, true world class players. Zidane another recent example of a world class midfielder. Which of those three does Gerrard get in front of?

So to my eye its pretty simple, of course he isnt the best player in the world in his position as Ive already said.

[Colchester Kev]

My overratted player Ive ever seen............... Has to be inthebelly at bb5

That deserves a quoting

[celtic]

Ronaldinho on the decline imo. still very good tho.

[77dave]

Zidane has retired so i guess he gets in in front of him

kaka doesnt play centre mid for ac milan and we differ in opinion about pirlo

so i still dont see who is a better centre mid player in the world

[bobby1]

Zidane has retired so i guess he gets in in front of him

kaka doesnt play centre mid for ac milan and we differ in opinion about pirlo

so i still dont see who is a better centre mid player in the world

As I said Zidane is there as a recent example of true world class. Well we disagree about the merits of some players then, so be it.

[GlasgowBandit]

Gerrard isn't even the best CM in the premierships.  Fabregas is a better player IMO.

Stevie G ia very very good player, but pick an world XI and I wouldn't have him in it.  TBH I don't think there would be many players plsying their trade in our leagues in their.

[bobby1]

Gerrard isn't even the best CM in the premierships.  Fabregas is a better player IMO.

Stevie G ia very very good player, but pick an world XI and I wouldn't have him in it.  TBH I don't think there would be many players plsying their trade in our leagues in their.

In a world eleven there wouldnt be one British player.

[celtic]

this has turned in to the stevie gerrard thread lol.

as a neutral, i think fabregas is currently better than gerrard. however neither will be proven either way til the have played in a decent team in a decent league.