13 way chop at GCBPT

[Geo the Sarge]

Obviously it's a bad deal and highlights why you shouldn't play outside of your BR.

30k stack is my hero.

A bad deal for some Flushy, but for me I believe it was a good deal. From the GCBPT website:

"There are also a number of lower buy-in events at each Festival to give less experienced players the chance to play at a live event." And I am certainly in that category.


geo

[Snatiramas]

Obviously it's a bad deal and highlights why you shouldn't play outside of your BR.

30k stack is my hero.

A bad deal for some Flushy, but for me I believe it was a good deal. From the GCBPT website:

"There are also a number of lower buy-in events at each Festival to give less experienced players the chance to play at a live event." And I am certainly in that category.


geo

I wouldn't worry....Flushy's never happy unless he is raining on somebody's parade

[MANTIS01]

1st night in Vegas last year I find myself at the final table at MGM with a third of the chips in play. People start talking about a chop before a hand is dealt. There is one player who has 1bb and starts the final table AS the bb. As CL I am prepared to deal but only for an even chop. The other players think I'm crazy and can't wait to take such a deal, even though one player starts all-in. I took sooooo much abuse.

Funny to see the other players change their tune when they realise the all-in bb is my Mrs. We split 50/50 in Vegas so the deal worked for me. Suddenly they think the good deal they got is unfair. lol.

A deal is good if YOU think it is. And you do. So good.

[Snatiramas]

1st night in Vegas last year I find myself at the final table at MGM with a third of the chips in play. People start talking about a chop before a hand is dealt. There is one player who has 1bb and starts the final table AS the bb. As CL I am prepared to deal but only for an even chop. The other players think I'm crazy and can't wait to take such a deal, even though one player starts all-in. I took sooooo much abuse.

Funny to see the other players change their tune when they realise the all-in bb is my Mrs. We split 50/50 in Vegas so the deal worked for me. Suddenly they think the good deal they got is unfair. lol.

A deal is good if YOU think it is. And you do. So good.

Like this post a lot

[boldie]

1st night in Vegas last year I find myself at the final table at MGM with a third of the chips in play. People start talking about a chop before a hand is dealt. There is one player who has 1bb and starts the final table AS the bb. As CL I am prepared to deal but only for an even chop. The other players think I'm crazy and can't wait to take such a deal, even though one player starts all-in. I took sooooo much abuse.

Funny to see the other players change their tune when they realise the all-in bb is my Mrs. We split 50/50 in Vegas so the deal worked for me. Suddenly they think the good deal they got is unfair. lol.

A deal is good if YOU think it is. And you do. So good.

10 players at the FT..you have 33% of the chips (+1 BB)..should have asked for a chip count related deal only and starting from scratch...you would have had more than the 20% of the money you got now

[MANTIS01]

Posted by: boldie

10 players at the FT..you have 33% of the chips (+1 BB)..should have asked for a chip count related deal only and starting from scratch...you would have had more than the 20% of the money you got now

You can't put a price on winding-up Americans though. The look on their faces when we pooled our two pay-outs, kissed, and went for steak, was worth more than the 20% alone.

[tikay]

Well done Geo!

OK, heres the hypothetical convo.

Me - Who paid your Entry Fee Geo?

Geo - I did

Me - Well you can do whatever deal you damn well like. It has nothing to do with anyone who's already busted.

You are happy - & so you should be, 'cos you got what you wanted - that's all that matters.

Always remember, when the moaning minnies start - you pay your own Entry Fee, not them. So do whatever you want.

[vegaslover]

I think it's a good deal Geo, 3rd place money when still 13 left. Even better deal for the 30k guy...lol

[celtic]

nice result geo.

as far as you are concerned, better than what you wanted to achieve at the start of the comp. right deal therefore. FOR YOU.

best of luck in the ME.

vinny

[cambo]

yes congrats to geo and ill say well done when i see him but this isnt a good deal! theres 5 pages in this thread and so far its only me flushy and tightend who thinks otherwise! have any of you played a comp no matter what the buy is and done a 13 way chop!??? no didnt think so! to give a guy with effectivly 2bbs 800 extra is madness! the point is youve got to be getting to the final 10 minimum with that stack an doing a deal , all the talk of having 4th locked up is shouldnt be takin into account at this stage. that stack should be used to get a much better deal i think geo has missed out on at least an extra 500 sheets. 13 way chop??? will never be done unless im the 30k guy! lol

[Ironside]

cambo you would likely find doing a chip count based deal geo would be getting about 1400 the extra 800 your talking about would of gone to the other larger stacks so i think geo got a great deal

[Dukes]

Did Alan Deuchars cash?

Daisy busted out in 14th...

Sigh tell him perhaps calling open shoves with  may help in future.......

We did take £100 off the top for the buuble so he would have got his buy-in back. Derek was one of the 13 in the chop.

Geo.

I must have been 15th then...i noticed the scoreboard was showing the wrong number of players once we were in the 20s but i did a head count at what i thought was 16 and 2 had gone before me...must have been 17 left at that point then, my own stupidity (a thing i have a surplus of)...was told only 10 paid though (more stupidity, should have check that maself) so wi half my stack going in on the bb next hand  and 4 to beat to get to ft, figured kt was as good as i was going to get, might have folded that round in the hope of someone else taking the drop or the remote chance of a better hand in the blinds...nah, prob not....

And i only folded jj cos i wanted keep the HUGE chunk of eck's chips that i'd just received...did i say thanks eck? ... thanks...  (and but for Eck's slick string bet maneouvre i wid have had more lol)

Please note, no lambasting came from this direction...i wis oot the door anyway and just read about this tonight but understand why geo took the deal, not the best of structures for that stage, really was anybody's to get lucky and win or more likely, unlucky and lose (seemed to see a lot of pushes wi rag-rag, see what yev done eck, yev started a trend :-)) but suppose the time management for the casino isn't easy there, last year they chucked us out when it was closing so it ended in a chipcount in the 200 wi 5 left, i think most people would prefer to play to a winner so it was maybe an attempt to achieve that? (naive internet player here...)
Bit surprised at 2nd agreeing to it but there ye go...
I wasn't playing it as a satellite but being so short stacked, even knowing that 2 good hands could take me to probably near enough chip lead, i would have taken a grand and been happy, 500 to the missus and buy myself into the me with the other 5 :-) i can see where cambo et al are coming from, didn't think i would ever agree to a 13 way chop but then i was very short stacked at last 2 tables :-)
if i was in geo's position, getting the seat on top would make me jump at that as well...good risk management geo...gl in me...and wp...

mantis....rofl funny....

[cambo]

everyone plays there own game but if ive got 13 players wanting a deal with 2 tables left and ive got 150k im raising every pot, you see this online all the time as ive said already in this thread everyone tightens up an plays scared. 90% of the time you should near enough DOUBLED  ur stack  by the time the bubble has burst just by stealing all the antes from the medium stacks. just dont understand how anyone can think this is a gd deal

[Ironside]

everyone plays there own game but if ive got 13 players wanting a deal with 2 tables left and ive got 150k im raising every pot, you see this online all the time as ive said already in this thread everyone tightens up an plays scared. 90% of the time you should near enough DOUBLED  ur stack  by the time the bubble has burst just by stealing all the antes from the medium stacks. just dont understand how anyone can think this is a gd deal

because it just needs anotehr 1 or 2 players that know what to do to ruin your day

[tikay]

everyone plays there own game but if ive got 13 players wanting a deal with 2 tables left and ive got 150k im raising every pot, you see this online all the time as ive said already in this thread everyone tightens up an plays scared. 90% of the time you should near enough DOUBLED  ur stack  by the time the bubble has burst just by stealing all the antes from the medium stacks. just dont understand how anyone can think this is a gd deal

I can only talk for my own response, not the others, but my point was very clear - he paid his entry fee himself, & so if he think it's ok, it's ok!

I never addressed the question as to whether it was a good deal or a bad deal - because it's situational - & not just poker situational, but "life" situational, bankroll situational, target achieved situational, Geo is happy situational.

We all view these things differently, nobody can say he was right or wrong, only venture our opinions. I see it as Geo is happy, so it's fine.

I can recall a 20 way chop - in a £1k comp - at Brighton, & several 10 & 12 way chops at Brighton. I have known of 8 or 10 "entire Fnal Table" chops in Sheffield Napoleons (because the Blinds get daft there) - one involving Thewy & me - and countless other "entire table" Chops when blinds got out of hand. It's very situational.

I can see your point - entirely - but Geo got what he wanted, & he's happy. To some of us, it's more than just a maths thing.