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« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2008, 04:47:06 PM » |
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can someone enlighten me on DaveShoelace's comment that the odds of anyone on the table having a 2 is something like 18 to 1?!?!?!?!?!?!??! lets see, feldman's cards + 3 on board makes 5 known cards so theres 47 unknown cards of which there are two more dueces...he was bluffing into about five people? so probability of any card out of the ten in people's hands is a duece 2/47...times that by 10...20/47....so i think the true odds of anyone of them holding a two is about 2/5 which makes it pretty likely...so next time you thinking of making that same move...THINK AGAIN! oh i forgot to mention people might also call you with any pocket pair, A4...35 etc kind of hands....just depends on your image  ps i just realised why i'm losing so much money!!! i'm making too many moves lol |
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« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2008, 06:24:43 PM » |
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Yeah, Im gonna hold my hands up on this one, got that the wrong way round. Those odds are based on a heads up hand at a full ring table.
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« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2008, 09:33:33 PM » |
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Who is he? I have never heard of him
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« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2008, 10:19:06 PM » |
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Who is he? I have never heard of him
Feldman or Greekfish or both? |
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You have to expect things of yourself before you can do them." "Heart is what separates the good from the great. '
"All money is good, just the quantity makes it better"
My Dad
"Poker Players and Vultures are alike. They both live off the flesh of the weak"
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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2008, 10:20:05 PM » |
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Who is he? I have never heard of him
Feldman or Greekfish or both? Greekfish |
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« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2008, 10:37:36 PM » |
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Who is he? I have never heard of him
Feldman or Greekfish or both? Greekfish bet365 pro I think |
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You have to expect things of yourself before you can do them." "Heart is what separates the good from the great. '
"All money is good, just the quantity makes it better"
My Dad
"Poker Players and Vultures are alike. They both live off the flesh of the weak"
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« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2008, 04:21:42 AM » |
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Who is he? I have never heard of him
Feldman or Greekfish or both? Greekfish bet365 pro I think According to THM database his career tournament cash total is $0! |
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« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2008, 11:36:23 AM » |
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oh & btw,
that greekfish is a lovely fella & i'm sure the experience will serve him well!
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« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2008, 11:40:00 AM » |
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wow last night was mental. It was good to see someone scoop a big pot off Townsend!
I thought the commentary was class, kept me entertained.
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« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2008, 12:21:38 PM » |
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I was watching this and cringing tbh. The main things that came over were that he misread a few hands and (more to the point) he has quite strong opinions on certain players and also how the game should be played (ie agressive or bust). I did not like his piss taking attitude towards curtis tbh ("oh he has top pair he will probably fold this") and the critisism of channing and feldman also. There is a differance between pointing out alternative options with reasons , and just deriding the way a player has chosen to player a hand becuase you dont like him or the way he plays.
Having said that..... I met him at the wsop- he was on my table for quite a while - and he was friendly and fairly well informed when I spoke to him at the breaks. Whilst I thought the commentry was very poor, I do feel that It is a lot harder than most of us realise. You have to analyse hands straight away ( we can all do that accurately every time right!) and then put those thoughts into words, while doing so in coherent and hopefully unbiased fashion. Oh! and you do this knowing that most of your (quite large) audience are a highly critical and reasonaby knowledgable group of people. Just to make it a bit more difficult you do this in the last couple of sessions of a 24 hour game when you yourslf are ptobably quite knackered and may even have a drink or 2 ( dunno about this but there is a fair chance). It wasnt good bit then it isnt easy.
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« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2008, 12:25:01 PM » |
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Any commentary is a pleasure to listen to after a dose of Trevor Harris, Jason Barrasford or Paul Musselle
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« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2008, 12:26:19 PM » |
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Any commentary is a pleasure to listen to after a dose of Trevor Harris, Jason Barrasford or Paul Musselle
That's funny because before I watch any poker show which TJ does the commentary or analysis on I listen to a bit of Rolf Harris for the same reason |
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« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2008, 01:32:59 PM » |
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I just checked out the thread on the hendon mob and as somebody mentioned two accounts posting back to back praising the commentary Are you serious??? I think we must be watching a different show or someithing!! Both my husband and myself are huge poker fans and watch all the poker shows. We've seen Andy Greekfish play and heard his commentaries and I think he's great!! It's refreshing to find someone on these shows who is not afraid to say exactly what he thinks instead of trying to keep everybody 'sweet'. I also think he brings a certain amount of charm and definitely a fair amount of entertainment. Sometimes I think my ears will start bleeding listening to the incessant dronings of various other commentators I can think of!! Fair enough, he might not be 100% accurate but then again who is but I would say his insight into the game is very good and he generally is excellent at reading hands and analyzing the game.
As for the comments above I think it's pretty easy to see what he meant by playing 3/5 os as a way of players 'making their money' - people can't put you on that kind of hand so when you hit you are liable to be paid off and break a big hand. I think it's just a case of some you not seeing the bigger picture!!
I watched the show last night too and I thought that the commentary was superb by Jesse and Andy - they make a great team (moth nutcases!!) Just a quickie on some of the things said above. I agree with what Andy was saying about Bad Beat - the guy has played aces so badly and gave everybody free draws and I honestly think that he was scared that he had run into a set. Having said that I think Bad Beat has played well so far in the show. I think this was just a blip on his behalf.
3/5 os is not really a hand you want to be playing but even I understand what the Greekfish meant by playing this. It's hard for people to think you are playing 3/5 in early position so you are giving yourself lots of ways of winning the pot. If you hit the flop your hand is extremely well disguised and if you miss you can represent. Oddly enough neither account has posted before or since |
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« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2008, 01:51:20 PM » |
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lmao..they probably went bust and had to take their computer to the cash converters |
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