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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2008, 10:50:19 AM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/7291191.stm


feela bit sorry for Hoggard

but Harmison absolutely had to go

however Anderson is poor too!!!


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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2008, 12:33:52 PM »

Still no Owais Shah. How badly have these batsmen got to perform to get dropped? It wasn't Harmison or Hoggard's fault we were all out for 110 in the 2nd innings. Also 76 all out in the last test before xmas. What has Strauss done to earn a recall? IMO this batting line up was picked back in September when the squad for Sri Lanka was chosen,it looks as if Strauss was told to have a rest and you will be back for New Zealand.
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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2008, 02:09:36 PM »

I also feel abit more sorry for Hoggard as basically this is one of the 1st tests, he has totally underperformed. This is infact an admission that both were totally under prepared for this tour.

As for the batting im not sure why Strauss has been recalled, he has been woefully out of form for at least 18 months.His winter in NZ has not been a success averaging 20 odd in NZ domestic cricket lol. I would pick shah to bat at 5, moving pietersen to 3 and bell to 4.
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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2008, 02:42:56 PM »

I also feel abit more sorry for Hoggard as basically this is one of the 1st tests, he has totally underperformed. This is infact an admission that both were totally under prepared for this tour.

As for the batting im not sure why Strauss has been recalled, he has been woefully out of form for at least 18 months.His winter in NZ has not been a success averaging 20 odd in NZ domestic cricket lol. I would pick shah to bat at 5, moving pietersen to 3 and bell to 4.


I agree, Colly at 5 Shah at 6 for me

I expect that will be the case for Napier in the final test
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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2008, 02:48:47 PM »

Given that Pietersen often looks vulnerable at the start of his innings I'm not sure I'd want him coming in at 3, where he's likely to be facing a newish ball.
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« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2008, 03:21:06 PM »

Pieterson wont bat three - it wouldnt be good for his average and he wont have that. He has the selfish arrogance that only top players can have. Bell at 3 him at 4 would probably work. I like Strauss but the better move would have to be get Shah playing now.
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« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2008, 04:10:55 PM »

Pieterson wont bat three - it wouldnt be good for his average and he wont have that. He has the selfish arrogance that only top players can have. Bell at 3 him at 4 would probably work. I like Strauss but the better move would have to be get Shah playing now.

What rooky said... So true about Pieterson imo.
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« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2008, 05:53:10 PM »

Only just noticed that Hoggard was dropped. That's a bit of a joke really, put up with people being consistently rubbish for ages and then drop him after one bad game.
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« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2008, 06:45:53 PM »

Only just noticed that Hoggard was dropped. That's a bit of a joke really, put up with people being consistently rubbish for ages and then drop him after one bad game.

So we should continue to put up with people 'being rubbish' because thats what we have always done?!! Hopefully it'll just be the start of trying to get a relatively settled team of players that can play together for the next 3 years or so. I worry about our tail though - not even able to hold up an end.
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« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2008, 07:23:11 PM »

It's just the stark contrast - Harmison gets numerous chances. Hoggard performs badly once and then gets replaced by Anderson - who has also been performing badly.

I don't think you can count one bad game as being rubbish, and if you keep dropping people after one bad game you're unlikely to get a settled team...
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« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2008, 07:24:36 PM »

Only just noticed that Hoggard was dropped. That's a bit of a joke really, put up with people being consistently rubbish for ages and then drop him after one bad game.

So we should continue to put up with people 'being rubbish' because thats what we have always done?!! Hopefully it'll just be the start of trying to get a relatively settled team of players that can play together for the next 3 years or so. I worry about our tail though - not even able to hold up an end.


Broad can bat, a decent number 8

having him in pushes Sidebottom to 9 which is better..

tail is still a touch long though which it would be with Anderson and Panesar in
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« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2008, 01:59:47 AM »

christ almighty

any of our batsman capable of building an innings? the pitch is doing a bit, but jeez
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« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2008, 02:00:38 AM »

err nope. scary aint it.

200AO coming here. then a long long bat yet again for NZ. Hopefully this will teach the selectors a thing or 2.
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« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2008, 02:01:00 AM »

Apparently it's 3 innings in a row where we've lost a wicket the 2nd ball after lunch.

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« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2008, 02:02:08 AM »

With the exception of Shah over Strauss though this is the best top six we have


Scary.
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