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bobby1
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Quote from: Horneris on March 07, 2008, 02:02:06 PM
lol @ Heavy.
Good To Soft imo.
Boldie, im on Kasbah Bliss EW @ 16/1, placed the bet in Jan. Wasnt confident until he ran a blinder LTO, and i really fancy him as long as the ground is decent altho not gona get involved further until the day.
Probs do a fcast with Inglis tho tbf. The main reason i opposed him is the stats say hes too old. The stable isnt firing and he could be vunerable to an improver, but that said, i appreciate he has won convincingly against his rivals already this season.
lol @heavy?, which weather forecast have you used to reach that conclusion. Take a look at the market movers in the Coral Cup and you will find the light weights that go on soft ground have been cut over the last few days. It doesnt mean the forecast will be right but Chelters were going to water over the last few days and havent due to the forecast.
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I think the ground will be a massive factor. On real heavy Denman could run Kauto ragged and help something like Exotic Dancer or Neptune Coll run into the places if Kauto does falter in a true run heavy ground 3 1/4 miles.
On goodish ground I would imagine Kauto being given a quiet like last year for a circuit and then having the pace to go past Denman on the run in.
there is no way with the drainage at cheltenham and 3 days racing before it that the course will be heavy.
The going at Cheltenham was definitely heavy for one of this season's earlier meetings, so it is possible.
Have you backed The Listener yet this year?
and the reason The Listener has been shortened for the Ryanair is he now looks like getting the right ground and has form over further, the perfect combo If the ground gets bad.
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Quote from: Horneris on March 07, 2008, 05:16:38 PM
Specials: Cheltenham Festival Ground
Tuesday 11 March 2008 - 14:00
Good to soft 4/9 1/2
Soft 5/2 9/4
Good 6 5
Heavy 14 14
Good to firm 500 500
Firm 5000
lol, that is a market on what the ground will be at the start of the meeting, as mentioned above the forecast is for heavy rain on Weds and Thursday. The clerk of the course delivered g/s as the 'official' going last year when it was clearly much faster than that, the reason is g/s suits almost every set of connections. He eventually admitted it was much quicker the day after when the times made it obvious and changed the ground accordingly.
Ther reason g/s is that short is that they always call it that these days and if it looks like getting towards good they will water to create good to soft anyway.
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Bobby1.
Cheltenham Competition Results for Rollz?
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I don't understand mate.
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Bobby1.
Cheltenham Competition Results for Rollz?
I think I get you now, you want to play the tipster comp for bankrolls?? , OK firstly tell me what your roll is.
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it is rather windy out there, isn't it?
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it is rather windy out there, isn't it?
lol,you arent kidding Boldie. Will be interesting to see if the strong wind dries the ground up after the rain. I think they had about 7mm overnight which doesnt seem that much esp if the wind is a good drying one.
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Forecast is heavy rain today and tomorrow, with showers on Wednesday too.
That should ensure the soft side of good at least.
I have dabbled on Kyber Kim in the opener @ 9/1
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Quote from: bobby1 on March 10, 2008, 10:34:39 AM
it is rather windy out there, isn't it?
lol,you arent kidding Boldie. Will be interesting to see if the strong wind dries the ground up after the rain. I think they had about 7mm overnight which doesnt seem that much esp if the wind is a good drying one.
From the racingpost website;
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THE storm that hit southern Britain in the early hours of Monday morning has eased the going at Cheltenham but clerk of the course Simon Claisse said that the damage done at the track by high winds would not affect racing at the festival which starts on Tuesday.
A total of 10mm of rain had eased the going on the Old course to good, good to soft in places and on the New course to good to soft, good in places. The cross-country was left at good.
Claisse said at 9.30am on Monday: "We had gusts of wind up to 48 miles an hour which have done surprisingly little damage to the course. Some rails have been moved around but we have taken the wings down on all the fences already.
"We have had some structural damage to the temporary structures in thetented villages but although that may affect some of the hospitality it doesn't affect racing.
"We've been through a quiet spell for the last two hours - it has been dry and the wind has dropped - but the wind is forecast to build again during the day. We are forecast another 3-4mm of rain today and another 2mm overnight
Essentially the clerk of the course will get the ground he wanted. soft side of good..no excuses for any horses on day 1.
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Quote from: Karabiner on March 10, 2008, 10:59:32 AM
Forecast is heavy rain today and tomorrow, with showers on Wednesday too.
That should ensure the soft side of good at least.
I have dabbled on Kyber Kim in the opener @ 9/1
The Listener must have a big chance too now Ralph.
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Quote from: Karabiner on March 10, 2008, 10:59:32 AM
Forecast is heavy rain today and tomorrow, with showers on Wednesday too.
That should ensure the soft side of good at least.
I have dabbled on Kyber Kim in the opener @ 9/1
The Listener must have a big chance too now Ralph.
There will only be heavy rain on Thursday and Friday and with the wind being this strong there has to be some doubt as to whether Thursday will indeed be very bad..
GL50 1AA is the postcode of the race course
www.metoffice.co.uk
is the website of the metoffice.
With the dry spells and strong wind and great drainage at Cheltenham I still can not see it getting softer than Soft-good to soft on Friday.nice jumping ground
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Quote from: bobby1 on March 10, 2008, 11:03:23 AM
Quote from: Karabiner on March 10, 2008, 10:59:32 AM
Forecast is heavy rain today and tomorrow, with showers on Wednesday too.
That should ensure the soft side of good at least.
I have dabbled on Kyber Kim in the opener @ 9/1
The Listener must have a big chance too now Ralph.
I agree Phil, that'll be an interesting race as Our Vic seems to like the track and trip too.
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Quote from: bobby1 on March 10, 2008, 11:03:23 AM
Quote from: Karabiner on March 10, 2008, 10:59:32 AM
Forecast is heavy rain today and tomorrow, with showers on Wednesday too.
That should ensure the soft side of good at least.
I have dabbled on Kyber Kim in the opener @ 9/1
The Listener must have a big chance too now Ralph.
I agree Phil, that'll be an interesting race as Our Vic seems to like the track and trip too.
I am leaning towards those two in that race too.
Are you going this year mate?
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