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« on: November 01, 2005, 10:34:25 PM »

I posed this question in the 'interview' thread, but I thought I'd throw it up in the air for everyone to answer.

I'd really like to know how you guys felt on the matter.


So here it is:

If a winning poker player is causing bankruptcy and depression in opponents by hunting them down, outplaying them, and encouraging them to refill, does that make him a bad person and his actions immorale?
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2005, 10:35:21 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2005, 10:36:52 PM »

Nope, dog eat dog at the tables.
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2005, 10:39:58 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2005, 10:43:06 PM »

I posed this question in the 'interview' thread, but I thought I'd throw it up in the air for everyone to answer.

I'd really like to know how you guys felt on the matter.


So here it is:

If a winning poker player is causing bankruptcy and depression in opponents by hunting them down, outplaying them, and encouraging them to refill, does that make him a bad person and his actions immorale?

I love this question! I wanted you to post this elsewhere!

No-one should feel guioty about the actions that someone else CHOOSES to make. We aren't in a nanny state, thank god, and if someone chooses to make decisions that will hurt them, then that is their choice.

So .. nope.

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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2005, 10:44:05 PM »

The encouraging to refill bit is extremely dubious.

I would say this is bordering on immoral.
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2005, 10:49:11 PM »


I love this question! I wanted you to post this elsewhere!

No-one should feel guioty about the actions that someone else CHOOSES to make. We aren't in a nanny state, thank god, and if someone chooses to make decisions that will hurt them, then that is their choice.

So .. nope.


echo's of the smoking debate...........
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2005, 11:10:39 PM »

Are we not putting a beer in the alocholic's hand and encouraging him to drink.
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2005, 11:16:48 PM »

um........err.........how?
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2005, 11:30:20 PM »

When I play and someone makes a huge error, giving me all their chips, they may say 'I can't believe how unlucky I was'. I might then say 'Yes, you were, you got done there m8. Unlucky' when I actually mean, 'No. You're a fish. You got what you deserved.'

I'm encouraging that player to carry on playing under the false pretence that he is just unlucky.

I'm encouraging him to continue playing and, more importantly, I'm encouraging him to continue playing badly.

If this guy is an addict, perhaps with wife, kids, and big financial debt, then what does that say about me?

Does that mean that a winning poker player is not only failing to contribute financially to society through not having to pay taxes, but also making it worse by taking money off guys who can't afford it and, quite simply, can't stop themselves?
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2005, 11:58:31 PM »

I know what you mean snoopy. I played the Walsall £300 Freeze the other Saturday.
Midway through this young chap goes all-in utg with 33 ( Hard to Believe )
I called with my 99 and the guys history. What did concern me was his welfare
and state of mind. What would happen if he went on a lonely walk to the roof and
jumped off the casino and landed on my £52k M3 Convertible in Techno Violet (company car)
causing vast amounts of damage

Very worrying   

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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2005, 11:59:45 PM »

I KNOW I can't let myself play the fruit machines here, I play em in Vegas to get them out of my system, so I am not tempted over here. 2x 9 days a year when I allow my little addiction to take over.

I recognise that little aberration I have in my genes that I enjoy stuff like that a bit too much and keep away. I suppose I play poker because while it is a gamble, if I get good enough, it won't be that much of a gamble.

If people aren't self aware enough to recognise that they have a problem, then that is their fault.

I am a firm believer in people being responsible for their own actions.

Gosh I am being harsh tonight Smiley

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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2005, 12:03:21 AM »

An interesting post Snoop. I run a pub in a town center , if i serve a bloke a few drinks and he gets in his car to drive home and kills someone am I responsible for serving him the drink?
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2005, 12:03:47 AM »

I think the taxman can rest easy, as the bankroll we use is probably money that tax has been paid on.
Lets say its descrecionary spending, and it might as well go into the poker community than end up in the pockets of ciggie makers or brewery owners, whare it gets swollowed by multi-national coperates.

There thats my bit.
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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2005, 12:10:14 AM »

Snoopy you don't have to feel guilty for winning.

Let's face it, if winning were easy everbody would be doing it.

Then we'd all be jumping off the roof onto MPower's M3 (and doing a service to his passengers)
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