A Guilty Conscience

[M POWER]

Nice Karabiner

Just a little secret Snoopy had the 33


Regards

M

[ifm]

hehehe, he wouldn't even dent it!!

[snoopy1239]

I know what you mean snoopy. I played the Walsall £300 Freeze the other Saturday.
Midway through this young chap goes all-in utg with 33 ( Hard to Believe )
I called with my 99 and the guys history. What did concern me was his welfare
and state of mind. What would happen if he went on a lonely walk to the roof and
jumped off the casino and landed on my £52k M3 Convertible in Techno Violet (company car)
causing vast amounts of damage

Very worrying   

Regards

M

 

 

I was on the button, not utg. 

[snoopy1239]

hehehe, he wouldn't even dent it!!

I'm not skinny, I'm small boned!

[ifm]

I was on the button, not utg. 

gotta admit, it seemed strange when he said it was you UTG..........you ain't THAT bad!!

[Bongo]

An interesting post Snoop. I run a pub in a town center , if i serve a bloke a few drinks and he gets in his car to drive home and kills someone am I responsible for serving him the drink?

I think a similar point would be if you encouraged him to drive home, or encouraged him to drink more knowing he was driving home.

[I KNOW IT]

I remember my good friend Tony Bolton describing poker players.
"Poker players are like vultures, living off the flesh of the weak " 
So true.

[snoopy1239]

I remember my good friend Tony Bolton describing poker players.
"Poker players are like vultures, living off the flesh of the weak " 
So true.

eek 

[RED-DOG]

The day after I got married I was going out to work and I had £25 between me and starvation

On the way I saw two of the men that were stopping on the same camp as me, they had parked their trucks in a layby and were playing quoits on a wide grass verge

Quoits is a game which involves pitching rings, or in our case horseshoes, on to, or as close as possible to a metal peg. Nearest shoe scores one, a 'Toucher' scores three, and a 'Ringer' scores five, the first to eleven, or twenty one. wins. One other rule is you must finish 'Dead hole' score one too many and you bust

Now I knew these guys were gambling, and I knew I could beat them both (I played quoits for hours on end in my youth and was much better than average) so I too parked my truck and strolled over to greet them, pretending that I was just passing the time of day, of course, it wasn't long before I was invited to have a game, we would play winner stays on, fiver a game

My plan was to lose the first two games and then up the stakes to a tenner a game. This I did and was soon in the position of wanting one point to win the ten pound game. It was me to throw first and my shoe fell about three inches short of the peg, now he has two shots to better that or I don't have to throw my second shoe. surprisingly, he did better it.  Because he still needed five more points, I should have thrown my last shoe away and played another round. Instead I made the tactical mistake of throwing my last shoe in an effort to win it there and then, I hit one of his shoes and flipped it up on to the peg for a ringer and five points to give him the win

Now I was in trouble, I could beat them easily but I only had a fiver left, I couldn't very well reduce the stakes so I said "Thanks for the game guys" and started to walk away " Hold on" one of them shouted, "I feel a bit guilty about taking your money, you being just married and that" and he offered me a fiver back. "If you give me that fiver back" I said, "I'll play you again and you can't beat me" "Fair enough" he replied, pushing the money into my shirt pocket, "The next time I take it, I'm keeping it"

His kindness and his conscience ended up costing him and his mate £140 that day, quite a lot back then, but all three of us learned a valuable lesson. Mine was, 'Don't play if you can't afford to lose' Theirs was, 'If you are going to play, play for keeps'

[snoopy1239]

 

Didn't know we had a hustler among us. 

[Chili]

When I play and someone makes a huge error, giving me all their chips, they may say 'I can't believe how unlucky I was'. I might then say 'Yes, you were, you got done there m8. Unlucky' when I actually mean, 'No. You're a fish. You got what you deserved.'

I'm encouraging that player to carry on playing under the false pretence that he is just unlucky.

I'm encouraging him to continue playing and, more importantly, I'm encouraging him to continue playing badly.

Snoopy, if a player makes a huge error and then says "i cant believe how unlucky i was" i just smile to myself and think your chips are mine!  I dont think this is harsh because if they stump up the money and take a shot at it then it is 100% their decision and i never feel bad about anyones bad play because i have made enough of them myself in my time.  The difference is learning from your mistakes and make yourself a better player.  If other people cant do this and more to the point play above their means, that is their problem and no-one elses!

Snoopy, you are a good guy

[snoopy1239]

RED-DOG

On a serious note though. If they'd have been the one's starving and just married, and you were aware of that, would you still be happy taking their money just because they agreed to gamble?

[snoopy1239]

When I play and someone makes a huge error, giving me all their chips, they may say 'I can't believe how unlucky I was'. I might then say 'Yes, you were, you got done there m8. Unlucky' when I actually mean, 'No. You're a fish. You got what you deserved.'

I'm encouraging that player to carry on playing under the false pretence that he is just unlucky.

I'm encouraging him to continue playing and, more importantly, I'm encouraging him to continue playing badly.

Snoopy, if a player makes a huge error and then says "i cant believe how unlucky i was" i just smile to myself and think your chips are mine!  I dont think this is harsh because if they stump up the money and take a shot at it then it is 100% their decision and i never feel bad about anyones bad play because i have made enough of them myself in my time.  The difference is learning from your mistakes and make yourself a better player.  If other people cant do this and more to the point play above their means, that is their problem and no-one elses!

Snoopy, you are a good guy

I only brought the topic up because I heard on the news the other day a story about the amount of folk who'd run up massive financial debts from playing online poker. They then went on to one fella who had lost everything, house, wife, the lot.

This made me say to myself - 'I could have been a part of that.'

Just makes you think.

Of course people make there own decisions, but we do a bit of gentle prodding in the meantime.

(Don't mean to be heavy. Just thought it was an interesting topic.)

[Chili]

it is an interesting topic but we have enough people to worry about in life i.e best friends, family etc so dont spread your conscience out to people who spiral into uncontrolled gambling debts.  Talking from experience you couldnt help serious gamblers anyway.  The only way to learn is unfortunately for them to hit rock bottom.  Its the only way to come up again.

[Chili]

Here is a thought, do you think gambling (not poker playing)  is in the genes, blood or inherited or a gene malfunction!  If it is hereditry then i'm screwed!