Maths help

[fidget]

Poker Stars $10+$1 rebuy No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t60000/t120000 Blinds - 5 players


BTN: t2573240
SB: t2523446
Hero (BB): t1718052
UTG: t3211800
CO: t1560962
1 fold, CO raises to t299999, 1 fold, SB raises to t720000



What is the minimum i need to profitably shove here?

I know how to work it out wit ha specific holding but im struggling with the equation for minimum needed
i'm assuming SB never passes and CO  passes about 85% of time when i shove.
SBs range is ?  he's good and aggressive .

[AlexMartin]

Jeez fidget, get pokerstove and do the ranges urself. This is a Q for your maths teacher (ask longy ) Id guess v a normal TAG SB we need 1010+/AQ+ to jam here profitably. But wo history of resteals/opening frequency its impossible to say. At the end of the day, uv got 14BB and this is a bad spot to get ur money in unless you have monster as this is going to showdown like always.

[Longy]

Right i have put this through an ICM calc assuming what you have put in your op.

As well as assuming sb reraises a10+,66+ and then that we are looking at chip equity (we have been given no payout structure). The calc spews back at me shoving 88+,ak,aqs+.

Given we have to take ICM into account here, i would go with ak,1010+ imo.

[fidget]

Jeez fidget, get pokerstove and do the ranges urself. This is a Q for your maths teacher (ask longy ) Id guess v a normal TAG SB we need 1010+/AQ+ to jam here profitably. But wo history of resteals/opening frequency its impossible to say. At the end of the day, uv got 14BB and this is a bad spot to get ur money in unless you have monster as this is going to showdown like always.

The stoveing is easy enough its combining the equation to take into account the 15% of the time the CO calls that got me a bit flummoxed.
I had JJ and knew it was a shove but afterwards wanted to know what the minimum i could do it with.
I don't think there is any harm in setting up a template for how to work these things out rather than starting from scratch every time.
Thanks Longy - what ICM calc did you use?

SB had KK not that it matters

Payout was 1 $12,142
                 2 $ 9.015
                 3 $ 6,623
                 4 $ 4,415
                 5 $ 3,680   

[AndrewT]

SB had KK not that it matters

I knew the 50p was lurking in there somewhere.

[Longy]

I have just downloaded the trial version of sngwiz yesterday and its really good as it takes into account spots like this.

[fidget]

SB had KK not that it matters

I knew the 50p was lurking in there somewhere.

how do u know i didn't suck out ?

[doubleup]

SB had KK not that it matters

I knew the 50p was lurking in there somewhere.

how do u know i didn't suck out ?

other guy will post somewhere or other - the 50ps always get collected...

[AlexMartin]

SB had KK not that it matters

I knew the 50p was lurking in there somewhere.

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always on the mark andrew.

[ifm]

SB had KK not that it matters

I knew the 50p was lurking in there somewhere.

]

always on the mark andrew.

Except the 50p would be for a bad beat, JJ v Kk is simply bad timing.