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« on: April 15, 2008, 10:14:31 PM »

Bit of a funny old season this year in that i don't think many teams can come out of it thinking they have had a good year in the Prem.
United are top so that's a given.
Arsenal have probably done better than expected but then faded away.
Pompey, Everton, Villa good form and league position so they can be happy.
Sunderland doing ok for first season back in the prem.
Citeh, Spurs and the Toon army have all under achieved.
Can't think of many others that can look on the season as one to remember.
Have I missed any?
 
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2008, 10:15:39 PM »

Derby.

Will struggle to ever match this season's unwanted record
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2008, 10:35:02 PM »

Derby.

Will struggle to ever match this season's unwanted record

And Paul Jewell has said they've spent next season's parachute payments already.
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2008, 10:42:07 PM »

Derby fans' chants last weekend:

"Let's pretend, Let's pretend, Let's pretend we've scored a goal YEAAAAAAAAH!"

"He plays on the left, he plays on the right, Mile Sterjovski makes us look alright."
Derby fans sing their hearts out despite going down 6-0 to Aston Villa.

"Let's all laugh at Carson, let's all laugh at Carson, la la la laa."
More efforts from the ever-cheery Rams supporters.

"We're gonna win 7-6, gonna win 7-6!"
Guess who?
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2008, 10:42:56 PM »

Derby.

Will struggle to ever match this season's unwanted record

And Paul Jewell has said they've spent next season's parachute payments already.

On Laurent Robert and Robbie Savage!   
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2008, 11:02:52 PM »

How is that even possible they never spent nowt last summer or in january the should have loads + the american investors Huh? They should never have sacked billy davies it was a joke decision imo he's good manager nobody in the world could have done ne fing with that bunch of ...
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2008, 11:07:31 PM »

How is that even possible they never spent nowt last summer or in january the should have loads + the american investors Huh? They should never have sacked billy davies it was a joke decision imo he's good manager nobody in the world could have done ne fing with that bunch of ...

Victim of his own success.  They had a three year plan to get to the Premiership (bearing in mind they narrowly avoiding dropping to League 1 the season prior to him taking over), he did it in one when they clearly were nowhere ready, winning the play off final was the worst thing that could have happened to him.  I don't think he bought particularly well in the summer but he should have been given the opportunity to learn from the experience and hopefully bring them back up. 
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2008, 11:13:34 PM »

Think MON has done a really good job at the Villa, I never expected them to have such a good season and I think they will get better next year.
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2008, 11:16:10 PM »

Thats why i was shocked they sacked him when they did obviously football is a business first and foremost it seems now but surely even idiot ignorant football big wigs in suits who run football clubs but no fuk all bout football could see that they had a shit team and had no chance should've just been glad they made some money getting them there and then tried getting a better team to bounce back up with.

MON has done a good job so far there and they're developing into a decent side.
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2008, 11:19:40 PM »

I dislike Billy Davies not just because he was a Rangers man but I never liked him as a player, pundit or coach but I think he was harshly treated by Derby and he has a blot on his CV that he should never have had.

Likewise Craig Levein - he is a really good manager but he made a poor decision going to Leicester when he did. 

I hate to see good young Scottish coaches going to bad clubs and struggling when they don't have to.
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2008, 11:59:04 PM »

Craig Levein's problems at Leicester were of his own making

He bought a load of players from the SPL who were either not good enough/paid too much and never got motivated or over the hill..Douglas, Sylla, Hughes etc etc and then. I mean Rab Douglas..on a 4 year contract at £15,000 a week for a 35 year old? he's still on our books until the end of this season and has done nothing bar the odd loan spell except roll around in his money for two years

He has a decent track record in Scotland, but it never translated to the England and his transfer policy was a shocker


and you shouldn't call any club a "bad club"..badly run or poorly performing clubs is what they are, not bad clubs per se
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2008, 01:19:56 AM »

Craig Levein's problems at Leicester were of his own making

He bought a load of players from the SPL who were either not good enough/paid too much and never got motivated or over the hill..Douglas, Sylla, Hughes etc etc and then. I mean Rab Douglas..on a 4 year contract at £15,000 a week for a 35 year old? he's still on our books until the end of this season and has done nothing bar the odd loan spell except roll around in his money for two years

He has a decent track record in Scotland, but it never translated to the England and his transfer policy was a shocker


and you shouldn't call any club a "bad club"..badly run or poorly performing clubs is what they are, not bad clubs per se

I was surprised that Levein wasn't a success as I rate him highly (him and Mowbray are the only two that have gone down south in recent years that I expected to succeed).  I tend to agree with you though that he didn't help his own case with some of the dross he bought.  I think he freely admits himself that he made mistakes and would love another crack down there at some point.  He has done a fantastic job at Dundee Utd this season, they have given us more problems than the rest of the SPL combined.
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2008, 01:20:13 PM »

Craig Levein's problems at Leicester were of his own making

He bought a load of players from the SPL who were either not good enough/paid too much and never got motivated or over the hill..Douglas, Sylla, Hughes etc etc and then. I mean Rab Douglas..on a 4 year contract at £15,000 a week for a 35 year old? he's still on our books until the end of this season and has done nothing bar the odd loan spell except roll around in his money for two years

He has a decent track record in Scotland, but it never translated to the England and his transfer policy was a shocker


and you shouldn't call any club a "bad club"..badly run or poorly performing clubs is what they are, not bad clubs per se

It would bother me f i had a manager who only bought players from where he was from as it shows his lack of knowledge imo at players based worldwide.Alex Mcleish seemed to be doing the same at birmingham but guess it worked for him.Lawrie sanchez is another good example of this where he bought loads of NI players who just weren't good enough for the prem.Maybe a bloke at liverpool could be accused of being the biggest offender of this...
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2008, 01:30:33 PM »

Craig Levein's problems at Leicester were of his own making

He bought a load of players from the SPL who were either not good enough/paid too much and never got motivated or over the hill..Douglas, Sylla, Hughes etc etc and then. I mean Rab Douglas..on a 4 year contract at £15,000 a week for a 35 year old? he's still on our books until the end of this season and has done nothing bar the odd loan spell except roll around in his money for two years

He has a decent track record in Scotland, but it never translated to the England and his transfer policy was a shocker


and you shouldn't call any club a "bad club"..badly run or poorly performing clubs is what they are, not bad clubs per se

It would bother me f i had a manager who only bought players from where he was from as it shows his lack of knowledge imo at players based worldwide.Alex Mcleish seemed to be doing the same at birmingham but guess it worked for him.Lawrie sanchez is another good example of this where he bought loads of NI players who just weren't good enough for the prem.Maybe a bloke at liverpool could be accused of being the biggest offender of this...

I think managers like to bring in players they have worked with before or know of simply because they know or hope they know what they are going to get.  I got to admit this does my head in sometimes also with managers but until they have got a team winning or indeed in McLeish's defence safe I think thats the way its going to be.  I think every manager is guillty of this to some degree.
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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2008, 01:55:30 PM »

Craig Levein's problems at Leicester were of his own making

He bought a load of players from the SPL who were either not good enough/paid too much and never got motivated or over the hill..Douglas, Sylla, Hughes etc etc and then. I mean Rab Douglas..on a 4 year contract at £15,000 a week for a 35 year old? he's still on our books until the end of this season and has done nothing bar the odd loan spell except roll around in his money for two years

He has a decent track record in Scotland, but it never translated to the England and his transfer policy was a shocker


and you shouldn't call any club a "bad club"..badly run or poorly performing clubs is what they are, not bad clubs per se

It would bother me f i had a manager who only bought players from where he was from as it shows his lack of knowledge imo at players based worldwide.Alex Mcleish seemed to be doing the same at birmingham but guess it worked for him.Lawrie sanchez is another good example of this where he bought loads of NI players who just weren't good enough for the prem. Maybe a bloke at liverpool could be accused of being the biggest offender of this...

Rafa and his affinity for Spanish players?

Torres, Alonso, Garcia, Reina - not bad signings.

Nunez, Josemi - not good signings (but not expensive mistakes and they were quickly shipped out).
 
Morientes was the biggest disappointment, only because he'd played so well previously and then completely failed to deliver at Liverpool.

Or were you referring to someone else?
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