happy st george's day

[kinboshi]

Ironic that on a day the Englanders want to celebrate their Englishness they are infact celebrating a Turk, I wonder how the far right would react to that? 

...and st andrew's day celebrates an Israeli who went to Greece.  How Scottish is that??

I don't celebrate St Andrews day. 
I just find it ironic, no need to get so touchy.

Ohh and we don't need a particular day to celebrate our Scottishness.  One Scotland many cultures.

LOL - how would the right-wing Scots react to that?

[technolog]

Here's to England and the English - whatever their race, sex or religion

  

[kinboshi]

Here's to England and the English - whatever their race, sex or religion

  

You playing in the $10K gtd Jack? 

Get yourself registered!

[George2Loose]

Happy St George(2loose)'s Day!

[Geo the Sarge]

St Andrew was taken as patron Saint of Scotland as he was reckoned to be responsible of the conversion to christianity by Scotland. This tends to be the main reason for Saints being chosen by countries, a martyr responsible for the conversion of that country to their main religion. Rarely will you find a saint of the same nationality of the country they represent.

St George was originally the chosen saint of the Monarchy (a very English bunch throughout history) and subsequently replaced Edmund who up till then was generally regarded as the Patron Saint of England.

Although I do agree that today is a day for Englishmen/women to celebrate their Englishness and not any religious guff.

Happy St George's to you all.

Geo

St Andrew never went to Scotland, and the conversion to Christianity isn't necessarily something to be celebrated.

Thanks Geo

Never said he did come to Scotland and certainly agree that conversion to Christianity is not neccessarily a reason for celebration (each to their own)

It originates from a part of the Declaration of Arbroath:

The high qualities and deserts of these people, were they not otherwise manifest, gain glory enough from this: that the King of kings and Lord of lords, our Lord Jesus Christ, after His Passion and Resurrection, called them, even though settled in the uttermost parts of the earth, almost the first to His most holy faith. Nor would He have them confirmed in that faith by merely anyone but by the first of His Apostles -- by calling, though second or third in rank -- the most gentle Saint Andrew, the Blessed Peter's brother, and desired him to keep them under his protection as their patron forever.


Geo

[kinboshi]

St Andrew was taken as patron Saint of Scotland as he was reckoned to be responsible of the conversion to christianity by Scotland. This tends to be the main reason for Saints being chosen by countries, a martyr responsible for the conversion of that country to their main religion. Rarely will you find a saint of the same nationality of the country they represent.

St George was originally the chosen saint of the Monarchy (a very English bunch throughout history) and subsequently replaced Edmund who up till then was generally regarded as the Patron Saint of England.

Although I do agree that today is a day for Englishmen/women to celebrate their Englishness and not any religious guff.

Happy St George's to you all.

Geo

St Andrew never went to Scotland, and the conversion to Christianity isn't necessarily something to be celebrated.

Thanks Geo

Never said he did come to Scotland and certainly agree that conversion to Christianity is not neccessarily a reason for celebration (each to their own)

It originates from a part of the Declaration of Arbroath:

The high qualities and deserts of these people, were they not otherwise manifest, gain glory enough from this: that the King of kings and Lord of lords, our Lord Jesus Christ, after His Passion and Resurrection, called them, even though settled in the uttermost parts of the earth, almost the first to His most holy faith. Nor would He have them confirmed in that faith by merely anyone but by the first of His Apostles -- by calling, though second or third in rank -- the most gentle Saint Andrew, the Blessed Peter's brother, and desired him to keep them under his protection as their patron forever.


Geo

Couldn't remember the full story, but it's here:  http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/home/scotland/standrew.html

Looking at the URL - is that your website? 

[boldie]

Happy St George(2loose)'s Day!

You had that last week

[I KNOW IT]

[Grier78]

Here's to England and the English - whatever their race, sex or religion

  

 

[celtic]

Happy st georges day to all who celebrate it.

vinny

[wader leg]

This royal throne of kings, this sceptred isle,
This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars,
This other Eden, demi-paradise,
This fortress built by Nature for herself
Against infection and the hand of war,
This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall
Or as a moat defensive to a house,
Against the envy of less happier lands,--
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.

Maybe not as apt as it was when it was written but stirring nontheless

[mondatoo]

Here's to England and the English - whatever their race, sex or religion

  

 

[The_duke]

To me, the arguments for or against a religious source for patron saints is immaterial. The main thing is a focal point for that emotion. Whether its a Saint or a Stone does it really matter (nor where that Saint or Stone comes from). All identities need to celebrate that particular identity and relish in the good that comes from it.

So from an Irishman --

Happy St Georges Day to all Englishmen

Ger

[turny]

To me, the arguments for or against a religious source for patron saints is immaterial. The main thing is a focal point for that emotion. Whether its a Saint or a Stone does it really matter (nor where that Saint or Stone comes from). All identities need to celebrate that particular identity and relish in the good that comes from it.

So from an Irishman --

Happy St Georges Day to all Englishmen

Ger

 

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