Anti-Speed Camera Petition

[Newmanseye]

I suppose if you really do want to avoid the speed cameras, and are unwilling to take the of a fine and or points on your license you always have the option of purchasing a sat nav with the "safety"  cameras location loaded, its costs about the same as 4 speeding tickets and you keep your license with no risk, That is unless you are incapable of taking your foot off the accelerator.

[TheChipPrince]

North wales police now use this to catch drivers, a disguised horse box...

[Rookie (Rodney)]

Now that is ridiculous.

[kinboshi]

Now that is ridiculous.

Agreed.

If the point of these cameras or radar checks is to increase road safety by making drivers slow down, then why are they concealed?  I love the way they call them 'safety cameras'. 

[bolt pp]

North wales police now use this to catch drivers, a disguised horse box...

It was the horse that gave it away

[gatso]

North wales police now use this to catch drivers, a disguised horse box...

forget the speeding, when did the Welsh start driving on the right?

[The_duke]

North wales police now use this to catch drivers, a disguised horse box...

forget the speeding, when did the Welsh start driving on the right?

The car is overtaking a disguised sheep tailer on the other side of the road

[KingPoker]

I have no problem with speed cameras at all!

I got caught speeding soon after I passed my test (83MPH on dual carriageway), and it has kept me in line since.

The points get put back on my license in September.

NOBODY is exempt from the law so just dont speed, never an excuse especially if you get done for it in a built up area.

[kinboshi]

I have no problem with speed cameras at all!

I got caught speeding soon after I passed my test (83MPH on dual carriageway), and it has kept me in line since.

The points get put back on my license in September.

NOBODY is exempt from the law so just dont speed, never an excuse especially if you get done for it in a built up area.

That's not the point.  Of course, if you break the law and caught - you pay for your crime.  No one's disputing that (well, I'm not).

I (and I think others are as well) am saying that speed cameras are ineffective ways of improving road safety, and they are obviously useless at catching people who are drunk, uninsured, driving dangerously, etc. 

They are also totally useless at determining if someone is doing an inappropriate speed.  Sometimes 70mph on a motorway is dangerous, but as it's within the arbitrary speed limit, many people think it can't be wrong.  The same people who use their mobile phones whilst driving, and do other things that are far more dangerous than going 85mph on a clear, dry motorway.

[KingPoker]

I have no problem with speed cameras at all!

I got caught speeding soon after I passed my test (83MPH on dual carriageway), and it has kept me in line since.

The points get put back on my license in September.

NOBODY is exempt from the law so just dont speed, never an excuse especially if you get done for it in a built up area.

That's not the point.  Of course, if you break the law and caught - you pay for your crime.  No one's disputing that (well, I'm not).

I (and I think others are as well) am saying that speed cameras are ineffective ways of improving road safety, and they are obviously useless at catching people who are drunk, uninsured, driving dangerously, etc. 

They are also totally useless at determining if someone is doing an inappropriate speed.  Sometimes 70mph on a motorway is dangerous, but as it's within the arbitrary speed limit, many people think it can't be wrong.  The same people who use their mobile phones whilst driving, and do other things that are far more dangerous than going 85mph on a clear, dry motorway.

Very true but in a few years, if that, they will have cameras that check car tax, insurance and speed im sure.

I'd argue they are a very effective way of controlling speeders because....

when i was travelling up to manchester the night before blondebash there was no way I was speeding on any part of the road upto North Wales and to Manc due to the fact that there could be a speed van around any corner. The same applied for when i went from Manc to Notts the next day, even going through the peak district I couldnt risk it as they could have been anywhere.

Maybe its different for me as I have already been pinged for it but I for one am personally glad they are there because they WILL/DO catch the downright wreckless out. And that applies to the new Horsebox detectors and the disguised vans, I don't quite see why they should have to announce there maybe a speed camera in the area because for me, it's not just about slowing down drivers on the most "dangerous" accident spots, they should slow down everywhere as an accident can happen anywhere even on a dry motorway.

[kinboshi]

I have no problem with speed cameras at all!

I got caught speeding soon after I passed my test (83MPH on dual carriageway), and it has kept me in line since.

The points get put back on my license in September.

NOBODY is exempt from the law so just dont speed, never an excuse especially if you get done for it in a built up area.

That's not the point.  Of course, if you break the law and caught - you pay for your crime.  No one's disputing that (well, I'm not).

I (and I think others are as well) am saying that speed cameras are ineffective ways of improving road safety, and they are obviously useless at catching people who are drunk, uninsured, driving dangerously, etc. 

They are also totally useless at determining if someone is doing an inappropriate speed.  Sometimes 70mph on a motorway is dangerous, but as it's within the arbitrary speed limit, many people think it can't be wrong.  The same people who use their mobile phones whilst driving, and do other things that are far more dangerous than going 85mph on a clear, dry motorway.

Very true but in a few years, if that, they will have cameras that check car tax, insurance and speed im sure.

I'd argue they are a very effective way of controlling speeders because....

when i was travelling up to manchester the night before blondebash there was no way I was speeding on any part of the road upto North Wales and to Manc due to the fact that there could be a speed van around any corner. The same applied for when i went from Manc to Notts the next day, even going through the peak district I couldnt risk it as they could have been anywhere.

Maybe its different for me as I have already been pinged for it but I for one am personally glad they are there because they WILL/DO catch the downright wreckless out. And that applies to the new Horsebox detectors and the disguised vans, I don't quite see why they should have to announce there maybe a speed camera in the area because for me, it's not just about slowing down drivers on the most "dangerous" accident spots, they should slow down everywhere as an accident can happen anywhere even on a dry motorway.

You were speeding on Saturday morning on the way to the football.

[KingPoker]

only on that industial estate!

plus i said i only slow down when there is a risk of speed camera, not much of a risk up there!

Im by far not an angel when i drive or i wouldnt be getting the new wheels......

[cia260895]

North wales police now use this to catch drivers, a disguised horse box...

well it does hide the sheep well doesnt it...........

[kinboshi]

only on that industial estate!

Where there were pedestrians.  Far more dangerous than speeding (as in exceeding the speed limit) on a motorway.

plus i said i only slow down when there is a risk of speed camera, not much of a risk up there!

Which is why speed cameras fail to prevent KSIs.

Im by far not an angel when i drive or i wouldnt be getting the new wheels......

Exactly.  I'm thinking of 'downsizing' soon.  You wouldn't believe what I'm looking at possibly getting...

[Jon MW]

I have no problem with speed cameras at all!

I got caught speeding soon after I passed my test (83MPH on dual carriageway), and it has kept me in line since.

The points get put back on my license in September.

NOBODY is exempt from the law so just dont speed, never an excuse especially if you get done for it in a built up area.

That's not the point.  Of course, if you break the law and caught - you pay for your crime.  No one's disputing that (well, I'm not).

I (and I think others are as well) am saying that speed cameras are ineffective ways of improving road safety, and they are obviously useless at catching people who are drunk, uninsured, driving dangerously, etc. 

They are also totally useless at determining if someone is doing an inappropriate speed.  Sometimes 70mph on a motorway is dangerous, but as it's within the arbitrary speed limit, many people think it can't be wrong.  The same people who use their mobile phones whilst driving, and do other things that are far more dangerous than going 85mph on a clear, dry motorway.

Speed cameras can't catch people who are drunk, uninsured, driving dangerously etc. - but they can catch people who are going over the speed limit.

The risk of being caught will slow some people down who might otherwise speed - some of the time they might speed would be when it was safe to go that fast and some when it wasn't.

Therefore on some occasions some people will drive more safely than they would if the cameras weren't there - so the cameras work.

They don't cost much and they make some difference, if they can be enchanced to catch the other elements described (drunk might be hard, but uninsured should be easy if the money was put into it for example) that would be better - but for the time being anything is better than just ignoring the problem altogether..