oh boy..more nanny state?

[boldie]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080602/tuk-children-may-face-drink-ban-at-home-6323e80.html

Press Assoc. - 36 minutes agoParents could be banned from giving children a taste of wine or beer at home under a Government crackdown on binge drinking announced on Monday.

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Currently any child aged five or over is legally allowed to try alcohol at home under their parents' supervision.

But a review designed to tackle the growing problem of teenage binge drinking will consider whether the legal age limit should be raised.

The Government's Youth Alcohol Action Plan could also impose new limits on advertising amid fears that children encounter too many drinks commercials on early evening TV.

Chief Medical Officer Sir Liam Donaldson will begin work on new guidelines on alcohol consumption among under-18s.

At the launch of the plan in London, Sir Liam said: "The law at the moment says that you mustn't give alcohol to your child under five.

"We are going to look at the evidence very systematically and see whether it needs to be changed or strengthened."

He continued: "In the past, getting drunk was a right of passage for young people. But over the last decade or so we have moved to a situation where it's more than a right of passage.

"Young people often say that they drink to get drunk. That pattern of behaviour has become quite deeply ingrained. That behaviour pattern is undoubtedly linked to higher health risks in the medium and long term."

He added: "Ultimately, it's parents' right and responsibility to supervise their children and guide them and we want to give them every help and support in this task."

lol...someone doesn't quite grasp it, me thinks. the "getting drunk is a right of passage" part is something that really cracked me up...If getting drunk really is a rite of passage for people in this country then I would suggest the problem might be there..and not with having a sip of wine when you're under aged.

[TightEnd]

you're rite.

[Colchester Kev]

you're rite.

But not his passage !

[boldie]

you're rite.

oh yeah...I see...make fun of the poor foreigner who doesn't speak English properly!..pffffttt


*off to change the mistake I (and the journo) made

[kinboshi]

you're rite.

oh yeah...I see...make fun of the poor foreigner who doesn't speak English properly!..pffffttt


*off to change the mistake I (and the journo) made

Ermmmm, where was the mistake?  I can see one now...

[Snatiramas]

What about alcohol used in religious services???

[bhoywonder]

Way 2 go.another unenforceable law reaches the statute books,bloody waste of taxpayers money.why don,t they concentrate on the failing economy.

[boldie]

What about alcohol used in religious services???

you're screwed Snatty...Gordon Brown will have you nicked!

[bolt pp]

It is a problem, these hoodies sitting around on a friday night sharing a merlot

[kinboshi]

It is a problem, these hoodies sitting around on a friday night sharing a merlot

Depends on the neighbourhood.  Pinot gris is the preferred tipple by the ASBO-brigade round here, although they're also partial to a Chardonnay at weekends (ldo).

[Snatiramas]

It is a problem, these hoodies sitting around on a friday night sharing a merlot

Or a nice Crozes Hermitage

[wader leg]

Way 2 go.another unenforceable law reaches the statute books,bloody waste of taxpayers money.why don,t they concentrate on the failing economy.

It won't be unenforceable when they fit cctv inside everyones home to keep tabs on what were doing, no doubt welcomed by the nothing to hide nothing to fear brigade.

BTW what does that mobile phone icon next to bhoywonders post mean? and the page icons on everyone elses posts that I've only just noticed, are they new?

[madasahatstand]

In Scotland there is evidence that a high percentage of folk with long term drink problems started drinking under the supervision of parents at 13-15 years old. Thats the black and white evidence but we don't know how many people started drinking with their families at this age and don't have long term drink problems. It's still significant in statistical terms though and policy should be made on academic research and evidence - not on a whim.

You have a bunch of politicans who don't know what culture is never mind try to achieve culture change around alcohol. The quote from the CMO says that he is looking into changing guidelines, not that any laws are going to be changed, well at least thats not what I take from it. I didn't read the link.

I'm not a parent but I cannot see for the life of me why you would give a 5 or a 10 year old alcohol except to cool down teething/maybe a sip of champers at a celebration? Why would it be bad news to publish 'guidelines' around children and alcohol so parents know the full evidence and can make informed choices? If alcohol can harm your child then why would you not want that information? CMO's are not usually in the business of setting out guidelines for no reason. They are in those positions to ensure the health of the communities, not to pander to politicians..

[madasahatstand]

Just saw the parts about the potential ban - it's unworkable even if its coated in gold plated evidence. I don't believe in the nanny state but I do believe that parents need the information to make informed choices.

[bhoywonder]

Way 2 go.another unenforceable law reaches the statute books,bloody waste of taxpayers money.why don,t they concentrate on the failing economy.

BTW what does that mobile phone icon next to bhoywonders post mean? and the page icons on everyone elses posts that I've only just noticed, are they new?

means i am in work skiving and on my mobile...lol

they havent found out a way to check my history file..give it time though,they will...

on a similar note we had tyre fitters in the other day and they have sat nav's installed which flashes a warning to the boss when they drive off the path they are meant to be on...obviously to keep an eye on them and to stop em abusing the company vehicles..so for them the big brother state has truely arrived...the driver told me the other day on a quiet afternoon he went for a haircut after trying with no avail to phone his boss..he got a final warning for that...

this country has problems,

come the revolution