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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2008, 09:40:23 PM »

He may be an excellent coach on the training field, and may be every players best friend around the camp, but to fans he seems uninspiring and quite frankly, dull...

Thats all fans see, about 5% of his job, when he's standing on the touchline...
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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2008, 09:42:03 PM »

agree with that, and sadly for him a number of red top fans judge him on that and nothing more.
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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2008, 09:44:52 PM »

I dont like McClaren as a coach. He reminds me of Houllier quite a bit. Moderately successful in the cups but dull a f*ck to watch and amazingly unambitious in the transfer market. I guess he's not terrible but no better than average.

Southgate is a much better manager potentially. A lot of people (me included) had him down to fail without Viduka, Yakubu and Hasselbaink but he gotten rid of the lazies, regardless of their reputation, and put a good little team together who all work for each other. Alves will end up being a very good signing.

To be fair he did win a domestic trophy and went v close to a European trophy so maybe I was a bit harsh. He's slightly better than average. (For an English manager)
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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2008, 09:47:26 PM »

we had booked flights on the morning off the croatia game to go over afterwards a didnt give a monkeys ad wasted £180 was just gutted england weren't going to be there.


so clearly your lack of faith in McClaren hadn't been engendered by performances in Israel and Russia then?

you booked flights before the match? tbh, that suggests an optimism on McClaren before one match, not consistent with your views on McClaren now.

Not at all tighty the fact as you say them two performances were in israel and russia was the big thing we were away not at home id be interested to know how many competitive games england has lost at home in last 6/7 years and i believe it was 0 defeats at home under mclaren add to that the fact that croatia had nothing to play for so therefore like most a didnt see any possible way that we weren't going to qualify.I had hoped we'd qualify and play poorly and get lucky so that the FA would hopefully have the sense to get rid of mclaren after the craotia game.On that night its fair to say the players where as much to blame as they were on the pitch and i would also say gerrard as captain was a joke i've never seen him play so bad, i'm not saying he's 100% to blame but mclaren is the main reason imo that we aren't at the euros.
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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2008, 09:50:30 PM »

Key reasons we're not at the Euro's:

1) Paul Robinson
2) Scott Carson
3) Wayne Rooney
4) Steven Gerrard
5) Steve Mc

The biggest problem he'd face with Blackburn is getting the players & fans respect after the England post. He's ability at Blackburn's level is decent.
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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2008, 09:51:01 PM »

He may be an excellent coach on the training field, and may be every players best friend around the camp, but to fans he seems uninspiring and quite frankly, dull...

Thats all fans see, about 5% of his job, when he's standing on the touchline...

An excellent coach doesn't equal a good manager though. I agree with what your saying but what else can we judge him on only 1 thing i can suggest and thats results which were not good where they not good at all.
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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2008, 09:58:16 PM »

Mistakes did happen from the players standpoint but McClaren also made some clangers - and belief comes from the manager.

1) Why play the 3-5-2 in Croatia? Yes we played it at Euro 96 but with attacking players on the wings like McManaman and Anderton. Awful decision. Completely unjustified.

2) Why play Carson at that stage of the campaign?

3) Why sell yourself on the fact that you dont put "Square pegs into round holes" then play people out of position almost every game?

4) Why did his team seletion match the press' pretty much every game? The press want Beckham out so he's gone. Then there's a campaign to bring him back so he's back. I mean ffs!

5) Why, every time we were in front, could you physically see him waving our players back to defend? Talk about tactically inept!

6) Why couldn't he drop players he who blatantly underperforming? Can you imagine Mourinho or Ferguson puttin up with that? If a player is playin a clanger, you hook him. Simple as that. How many times did Mourinho do 3 half time substitutions?

I take saying he's better than average back. He's average at best.
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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2008, 10:00:10 PM »

Yes, all fair comment..but as a club manager...for a mid ranking premiership team like Blackburn, Boro or Newcastle..a perfectly acceptable choice
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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2008, 10:03:18 PM »

If David beckham had've been in the squad from the start we would be at the euros now FACT!!!!

Yes, all fair comment..but as a club manager...for a mid ranking premiership team like Blackburn, Boro or Newcastle..a perfectly acceptable choice

Trust me this would not be an acceptable choice up here and there would be hell on if he was i'm not disagreeing we are a mid ranking premier lge team at the moment fwiw.
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« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2008, 10:04:57 PM »

Yes, all fair comment..but as a club manager...for a mid ranking premiership team like Blackburn, Boro or Newcastle..a perfectly acceptable choice

Agree. He wont get them relegated which in itself is money making. Although I dont know if Blackburn fans will want just that. Throw in some cup runs and I guess he'll be fine.
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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2008, 10:10:10 PM »

for Blackburn the priority for any manager is to keep Bentley and Roque Santa Cruz for next season, is it not?

beyond that consolidate. I don't think Blackburn fans can realistically expect better than 8th-12th whoever is manager.

Perfect for McClaren.

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« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2008, 09:21:03 AM »

Ignoring the fact that Sven has since been dumped, aren't the comments aimed at Mclaren along the lines of those against Sven before he came to City. I think he could do a good job at Blackburn.
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« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2008, 11:07:00 AM »

Ignoring the fact that Sven has since been dumped, aren't the comments aimed at Mclaren along the lines of those against Sven before he came to City. I think he could do a good job at Blackburn.

Yes they are but people are always remembered by their last job.
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« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2008, 11:11:30 AM »

for Blackburn the priority for any manager is to keep Bentley and Roque Santa Cruz for next season, is it not?

beyond that consolidate. I don't think Blackburn fans can realistically expect better than 8th-12th whoever is manager.

Perfect for McClaren.



I think they couldve realistically expected 8th - 6th based on their home form.

So much of this teams solid home form and work ethic is down to hughes realistic managerial style, he knows what theyre able to achieve and what he's able to get out of the players, losing him in itself is gonna be difficult enough for them to deal with and without a major change in players it's gonna take a great manager to come in and deconstruct the team and get them playing to his own specifications, mclaren is NOT that manager!

I see them being around the bottom 1/4 next season
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« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2008, 11:15:21 AM »

good club coach, will be fine for Blackburn..or similar team.
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