A DOG'S LIFE

[Wardonkey]

It is a good point, but I still think you make more by betting. You may even get a re-raise from AK, especially if you are betting your draws aggressively and making standard contiuation bets on the flop.

[snoopy1239]

$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, November 30, 15:07:32 EDT 2005

Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10

Seat 4: snoopy1239 ( $198.90 )
Seat 10: hugefeet ( $189 )

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to snoopy1239 [  ]

JaimiHois folds.
snoopy1239 calls [$2].
Mickland checks.
cheqrazer calls [$2].
walkingdeuce folds.
Markoolio123 folds.
mm44878 checks.

hugefeet raises [$12].
hanno333 folds.
blaidan2 folds.

snoopy1239 calls [$10].
Mickland folds.
cheqrazer folds.
mm44878 folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]


snoopy1239 bets [$20].
hugefeet calls [$20].

** Dealing Turn ** [ ]


Did I make the right decision?

What do you think he has?

What should I do now?

[TightEnd]

happy so far

bet again. 3/4 the pot.  overpair?

surely not the straight?

[snoopy1239]

Is it worth checking and hoping he bets, or is that too risky?

[TightEnd]

maybe, I think though I'd build the pot.

but if you lead out he's going to struggle to put you on the set, and if you check and he checks you are giving him a free card to hit what he needs to hit

he may even have called the flop bet with AK I suppose

[snoopy1239]

If he's got AK, then we're not going to get anymore money out of him.

If he has the overpair, then wouldn't it be better to check to him so he can bet away some of his chips? Wouldn't a bet look suspicious? I wouldn't want to scare him off he does have a hand like KK.

[TightEnd]

KK is not going to be scared by a bet here, KK is raising you here to find out wtf is going on.

In fact KK should have raised you on the flop


but I am not sure of how people play overpairs, the standard line,  in this game.

[Karabiner]

I like the 3/4 pot bet too.

[Colchester Kev]

He has pocket 5's ... look out snoops he is gonna take ya to the cleaners

[snoopy1239]

KK is not going to be scared by a bet here, KK is raising you here to find out wtf is going on.

In fact KK should have raised you on the flop


but I am not sure of how people play overpairs, the standard line,  in this game.

If he didn't raise me on the flop, does this mean he doesn't have the overpair? If so, don't I want to check to give him a chance to bluff with overcards?

[yt]

Key in this hand is his dealer button raise could mean any two cards. He had a lot of BB limps (must be new players to table) and he could have been trying to steal a nice preflop pot. Unfortunately for you the flop means he may have hit the st8 with a junk hand. His call on the flop speaks volumes about this. If he had a genuine hand like KK he is reraising you I would have thought.
Still the advice to bet out on the turn is OK and 3/4 of pot seems the right move. However if you think his dealer button raise was a junk hand that got lucky, check and hope to see a free river that pairs up the board.

[The Baron]

Key in this hand is his dealer button raise could mean any two cards. He had a lot of BB limps (must be new players to table) and he could have been trying to steal a nice preflop pot. Unfortunately for you the flop means he may have hit the st8 with a junk hand. His call on the flop speaks volumes about this. If he had a genuine hand like KK he is reraising you I would have thought.
Still the advice to bet out on the turn is OK and 3/4 of pot seems the right move. However if you think his dealer button raise was a junk hand that got lucky, check and hope to see a free river that pairs up the board.

In a tournament I'd agree with this but not so much in a cash game. Nicking fixed blinds is almost pointless.

[TightEnd]

KK is not going to be scared by a bet here, KK is raising you here to find out wtf is going on.

In fact KK should have raised you on the flop


but I am not sure of how people play overpairs, the standard line,  in this game.

If he didn't raise me on the flop, does this mean he doesn't have the overpair? If so, don't I want to check to give him a chance to bluff with overcards?

in a cash game it means to me he might still have an overpair, he's happy you are betting into him on the flop, you are building the pot for his eg KK.

Now though you bet he has to find out where he is, he raises with an overpair

You check, sure he bets . You are raising then or smooth calling?

Either is a possible line isn't it?

[yt]

Key in this hand is his dealer button raise could mean any two cards. He had a lot of BB limps (must be new players to table) and he could have been trying to steal a nice preflop pot. Unfortunately for you the flop means he may have hit the st8 with a junk hand. His call on the flop speaks volumes about this. If he had a genuine hand like KK he is reraising you I would have thought.
Still the advice to bet out on the turn is OK and 3/4 of pot seems the right move. However if you think his dealer button raise was a junk hand that got lucky, check and hope to see a free river that pairs up the board.

In a tournament I'd agree with this but not so much in a cash game. Nicking fixed blinds is almost pointless.

agreed but in this case there were two extra big blinds from people new to the table and $11 in the pot to be stolen. He bet $12 so I just think it was a perfect chance to steal. Hey I'm sure I'm wrong and we will soon see! It's also why I hate to play cash games

[The Baron]

He is surely holding some pair now whether it be trips, a straight or the overpair.

You need to find out. If you bet 3/4 pot and he raises, he may have 55 and you aint getting away. If you check raise him and he moves on you, surely then you would know you're behind? If you check and he checks then you know you are ahead. I think the most information is gained by checking here.

The only problem is you are probably still winning and want to build the pot.

I'd be a pussy and check - find out where I am first and then try to get paid on the river if I decide I'm still ahead.