It's that time of year again: Holidayo ergo crash dieto

[WYSINWYG]

I have added a few extra pounds somehow over the last 5 months and thought I was doing ok by just eating small amounts of normal food and about 1400 of those rice disc things. It has been pointed out to me that I need to exercise also. At the moment, betting and raising in live poker contributes substantially to my daily exercise regime (no kidding). So what do I do to clear the slowly accumulating midrift? Does it have to be sweat and shortness of breath? Do I need to do a ton of sit ups?
Any advice gratefully received.
ps I'm really lazy.

[Claw75]

is there any exercise you actually enjoy doing?  You could go out dancing (but lay off the beers). Swimming's a good one too (especially if there's a hot tub and steam room to relax in as well )

[kinboshi]

calories used > calories in = weight loss

[Swordpoker]

The more you move the more calories you burn. So you could spend a couple of hours walking at normal speed each day and that would do the job fine.

Of course, the more intensive the exercise the more calories you burn. So figure out how much time you want to spend vs how intense (or how lazy) you want the exercise to be.

[cia260895]

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takes all the effort out of doing sit ups in no time at all you'll be doing 500..

[byronkincaid]

calories used > calories in = weight loss

not that simple, it depends.

[Claw75]

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takes all the effort out of doing sit ups in no time at all you'll be doing 500..

Matt was talking about something like this the other night - surely if it takes all the effort out you're not getting as much benefit?

if it's just your tummy you want to sort out I'd recommend 3 sets of 12 sit ups (with shoulders straight - not all the bending over double stuff) and 3 sets of ten leg lifts (each leg, with other leg slightly raised off the ground if you can manage it) daily.  I'm clearly not a great advert for stomach exercises so should point out I haven't done them in years, but when I did my stomach looked much more toned within weeks and I lost a couple of inches round there too.

[kinboshi]

calories used > calories in = weight loss

not that simple, it depends.

I'd like to see when it depends. 

If you burn up calories via exercise, your metabolism, or by whatever other mean - you are expending energy.  If your body is taking in fewer calories than it's using, the extra energy has to come from somewhere.  If it's not through food - it has to be from reserves.  These reserves are not infinite, and as they're used the fat and carbo reserves are depleted.

There are different ways to effect weight-loss, and some are better than others (i.e. quicker, more 'permanent', etc.) - but ultimately if your body uses more calories than it consumes, then you will lose weight.

[byronkincaid]

so you're saying that if we take two people who both burn 3500 calories a day and both consume 3000 calories a day and have same age, weight and current metabolism they will both lose weight at the same rate?

person A eats 6 meals a day, 5 meals are lean meat and vegetables, 1 meal in the morning after he lifts heavy weights has some carbs.

person B eats one meal a day straight before he goes to bed all processed carbs, starch and sugar. he jogs slowly every morning for his exercise.

you are ignoring the thermal effects of different macronutrients, nutrient timing, the different effects different exercises have on your metabolism etc etc etc

this video trys to debunk the calories in calories out theory, the obese mothers with starving children bit is interesting no?

http://webcast.berkeley.edu/event_details.php?webcastid=21216

to simplifiy his work he is saying that insulin shunts fat into fat cells, no insulin = no fat production.

Berardi is well respected and has written a ton of articles about "a calorie is not a calorie" as well
for example

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/leaneating_1.htm


http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/new_view.htm

I don't pretend to understand all this, even the experts don't pretend to know everything and most of them argue with each other and come to opposite conclusions from the same data. The calorie in calorie out lose weight thing is v simplistic tho imo otherwise why is everyone so fat? just eat a bit less or do a bit more exercise.....

[AndrewT]

so you're saying that if we take two people who both burn 3500 calories a day and both consume 3000 calories a day and have same age, weight and current metabolism they will both lose weight at the same rate?

person A eats 6 meals a day, 5 meals are lean meat and vegetables, 1 meal in the morning after he lifts heavy weights has some carbs.

person B eats one meal a day straight before he goes to bed all processed carbs, starch and sugar. he jogs slowly every morning for his exercise.

you are ignoring the thermal effects of different macronutrients, nutrient timing, the different effects different exercises have on your metabolism etc etc etc

this video trys to debunk the calories in calories out theory, the obese mothers with starving children bit is interesting no?

http://webcast.berkeley.edu/event_details.php?webcastid=21216

to simplifiy his work he is saying that insulin shunts fat into fat cells, no insulin = no fat production.

Berardi is well respected and has written a ton of articles about "a calorie is not a calorie" as well
for example

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/leaneating_1.htm


http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/new_view.htm

I don't pretend to understand all this, even the experts don't pretend to know everything and most of them argue with each other and come to opposite conclusions from the same data. The calorie in calorie out lose weight thing is v simplistic tho imo otherwise why is everyone so fat? just eat a bit less or do a bit more exercise.....

Haven't you heard - fat people have big bones.

[kinboshi]

so you're saying that if we take two people who both burn 3500 calories a day and both consume 3000 calories a day and have same age, weight and current metabolism they will both lose weight at the same rate?

Nope. Never said that at all.

People will burn energy at different rates.  But it's a fundamental law that energy cannot be created or destroyed.  If a body uses 2000 calories, and only 1500 calories are absorbed in the same period, where does the other 500 calories of energy come from?

[Swordpoker]

so you're saying that if we take two people who both burn 3500 calories a day and both consume 3000 calories a day and have same age, weight and current metabolism they will both lose weight at the same rate?

Nope. Never said that at all.

People will burn energy at different rates.  But it's a fundamental law that energy cannot be created or destroyed.  If a body uses 2000 calories, and only 1500 calories are absorbed in the same period, where does the other 500 calories of energy come from?

[kinboshi]

The calorie in calorie out lose weight thing is v simplistic tho imo otherwise why is everyone so fat? just eat a bit less or do a bit more exercise.....

It's that simple.  Take in fewer calories, use more up.  Of course, a healthy body demands more than that, and also different people will absorb energy (in its different forms) at different speeds, and others will burn it up at different speeds.

When I was in training for the marathon, I had to eat twice as much every day.  Otherwise I felt weak.  I simply had to eat enough calories to cater for the amount I was burning up in my training.  

[byronkincaid]

i dunno wtf speed has got to do with it if they both burn up the same calories per day? anyway your theory has pretty much been debunked now, believe what you will

[Swordpoker]

i dunno wtf speed has got to do with it if they both burn up the same calories per day? anyway your theory has pretty much been debunked now, believe what you will

Eh?

Exactly whose theory has been debunked?