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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2008, 10:48:53 PM »
call and give him overbet of the night award......oh and tell him u can play after the flop..its allowed
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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2008, 10:55:40 PM »
LMAO This has gotta be a Level
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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2008, 11:07:14 PM »
Game #6161220503: LUCKY £7K THU (ID7655900) £30+£3 - Hold'em NL (50/100) - 2008/07/17 - 22:07:35 (UK)
Table "7655900 - 7" Seat 7 is the button.
Seat 1: S230204 (4512 in chips)
Seat 3: F1shb0wl (1700 in chips)
Seat 4: Stu240615 (2075 in chips)
Seat 5: Anto07081 (2100 in chips)
Seat 6: Hugh (4038 in chips)
Seat 7: Seatopen (5320 in chips)
Seat 8: Nielander (2225 in chips)
Seat 9: Eck68 (3520 in chips)
Seat 10: Solicitor (4575 in chips)
Nielander: posts small blind 50
Eck68: posts big blind 100
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Hugh [ ]
Solicitor: folds
S230204: folds
F1shb0wl: folds
Stu240615: folds
Anto07081: folds
Hugh: raises to 600
Seatopen: raises to 5320 and is all-in
Nielander: folds
Eck68: folds
Hugh: is all-in 3438
Returned uncalled bets 1,282 to Seatopen
----- FLOP ----- [Ah ]
----- TURN ----- [Ah ][]
----- RIVER ----- [Ah ][]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Seatopen: shows [ As] (Two Pairs, Aces and Eights, King high)
Hugh: shows [ ] (Two Pairs, Queens and Eights, Ace high)
Seatopen collected 8226 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 8226 Main pot 8226 Rake 0
Board [Ah ]
Seat 1: S230204 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: F1shb0wl folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Stu240615 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Anto07081 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hugh showed [ ] and lost with Two Pairs, Queens and Eights, Ace high
Seat 7: Seatopen (button) showed [ As] and won (8226) with Two Pairs, Aces and Eights, King high
Seat 8: Nielander (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Eck68 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Solicitor folded before Flop (didn't bet)

KEV has it spot on
yes did snap call did not have him on AA kk had him on ak aq aj  

interested in raise size pre flop comments

am always scared in these to get many callers

its a £30 tourney but lots of sats to it and even £0.33 lotterys
standard of play is varied
i am raising to 600 as i think if i make 300 i will get called in 2 or 3 spots with any pp any ace and will see my self c betting flop having allowed trips to hit
further comments on pre flop raise size appreciatted
how do others play this ?

Hugh
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2008, 11:14:52 PM »
Quote from: h on July 17, 2008, 11:07:14 PM
Seat 9: Eck68 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

fkin nit.
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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2008, 11:16:46 PM »
Quote from: h on July 17, 2008, 11:07:14 PM
Game #6161220503: LUCKY £7K THU (ID7655900) £30+£3 - Hold'em NL (50/100) - 2008/07/17 - 22:07:35 (UK)
Table "7655900 - 7" Seat 7 is the button.
Seat 1: S230204 (4512 in chips)
Seat 3: F1shb0wl (1700 in chips)
Seat 4: Stu240615 (2075 in chips)
Seat 5: Anto07081 (2100 in chips)
Seat 6: Hugh (4038 in chips)
Seat 7: Seatopen (5320 in chips)
Seat 8: Nielander (2225 in chips)
Seat 9: Eck68 (3520 in chips)
Seat 10: Solicitor (4575 in chips)
Nielander: posts small blind 50
Eck68: posts big blind 100
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Hugh [ ]
Solicitor: folds
S230204: folds
F1shb0wl: folds
Stu240615: folds
Anto07081: folds
Hugh: raises to 600
Seatopen: raises to 5320 and is all-in
Nielander: folds
Eck68: folds
Hugh: is all-in 3438
Returned uncalled bets 1,282 to Seatopen
----- FLOP ----- [Ah ]
----- TURN ----- [Ah ][]
----- RIVER ----- [Ah ][]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Seatopen: shows [ As] (Two Pairs, Aces and Eights, King high)
Hugh: shows [ ] (Two Pairs, Queens and Eights, Ace high)
Seatopen collected 8226 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 8226 Main pot 8226 Rake 0
Board [Ah ]
Seat 1: S230204 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: F1shb0wl folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Stu240615 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Anto07081 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hugh showed [ ] and lost with Two Pairs, Queens and Eights, Ace high
Seat 7: Seatopen (button) showed [ As] and won (8226) with Two Pairs, Aces and Eights, King high
Seat 8: Nielander (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Eck68 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Solicitor folded before Flop (didn't bet)

KEV has it spot on
yes did snap call did not have him on AA kk had him on ak aq aj 

interested in raise size pre flop comments

am always scared in these to get many callers

its a £30 tourney but lots of sats to it and even £0.33 lotterys
standard of play is varied
i am raising to 600 as i think if i make 300 i will get called in 2 or 3 spots with any pp any ace and will see my self c betting flop having allowed trips to hit
further comments on pre flop raise size appreciatted
how do others play this ?

Hugh

600 is heavy live but on the internet i agree with u..u will get multi callers if u make it less..trouble is ur assuming ur playing people who can play poker..they cant play once a flop comes down so they just shove the lot in and take a race...might as well not bother flip a coin and save 5 hours of ur life...standard internet play his allin..had someone do exactly the same to me in sunday million..900 hundred in middle guy in front of me moves in for 24k..!!  Me QQ also... i called too..exactly same loss to AK...
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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2008, 11:17:33 PM »
i am raising to 600 as i think if i make 300 i will get called in 2 or 3 spots with any pp any ace and will see my self c betting flop having allowed trips to hit

So you are saying you only want to win the blinds with QQ?

And you also must question yourself that would you have posted this thread if the flop had been
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2008, 11:18:48 PM »
dont be scared, u can always fold on a dangerous flop etc..... who knows, u may even like the flop!!!!! 400 is the max raise pre imo.
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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2008, 11:23:13 PM »
i make it 350 and go from there....

600 though does look like 66-99 so you may have induced JJ to shove..........
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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2008, 11:26:54 PM »
Snap call the all in, his range is at least aq+ 99+ in this spot.

As for preflop raise sizing which is alot more interesting conversation. I make it 300 but would be happy with anything between 250 and 350.

Overbetting preflop is a bit nonsensical. Your arguement is that these donkeys will call with anything(yet 6 of them have already passed !!!!) well let them to a degree, we have a premium hand and want some value from it. If they are donkeys they will be worse than you post flop as well and you will get there stacks when they hit top or possibly worse.

Also we should be stealing alot from late position and by making it less we can make stealing a better risk reward proposition.

As for this zomg internet players, they are so bad compared to live players. Please can we stop it with the levelling, you only have to look at Lucky scrotes well, where he compares the $100 rebuy to EPTs.

Villian played this hand alot better than OP.
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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2008, 11:27:29 PM »
I am awaiting the arrival of Flushy on this thread with excitement.

Esp for the reasoning for 600 raise analysis he will no doubt provide.
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« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2008, 11:29:04 PM »
Quote from: Longy on July 17, 2008, 11:26:54 PM
Snap call the all in, his range is at least aq+ 99+ in this spot.

As for preflop raise sizing which is alot more interesting conversation. I make it 300 but would be happy with anything between 250 and 350.

Overbetting preflop is a bit nonsensical. Your arguement is that these donkeys will call with anything(yet 6 of them have already passed !!!!) well let them to a degree, we have a premium hand and want some value from it. If they are donkeys they will be worse than you post flop as well and you will get there stacks when they hit top or possibly worse.

Also we should be stealing alot from late position and by making it less we can make stealing a better risk reward proposition.

As for this zomg internet players, they are so bad compared to live players. Please can we stop it with the levelling, you only have to look at Lucky scrotes well, where he compares the $100 rebuy to EPTs.

Villian played this hand alot better than OP.






u think 5+ k into 800 is a good move ?
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« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2008, 11:31:58 PM »
Quote from: the sicilian on July 17, 2008, 11:29:04 PM
Quote from: Longy on July 17, 2008, 11:26:54 PM
Snap call the all in, his range is at least aq+ 99+ in this spot.

As for preflop raise sizing which is alot more interesting conversation. I make it 300 but would be happy with anything between 250 and 350.

Overbetting preflop is a bit nonsensical. Your arguement is that these donkeys will call with anything(yet 6 of them have already passed !!!!) well let them to a degree, we have a premium hand and want some value from it. If they are donkeys they will be worse than you post flop as well and you will get there stacks when they hit top or possibly worse.

Also we should be stealing alot from late position and by making it less we can make stealing a better risk reward proposition.

As for this zomg internet players, they are so bad compared to live players. Please can we stop it with the levelling, you only have to look at Lucky scrotes well, where he compares the $100 rebuy to EPTs.

Villian played this hand alot better than OP.






u think 5+ k into 800 is a good move ?

Yes, completely standard.

Any other raise commits around a 1/3 of our chip, meaning we should be never folding post flop. This way we get to see 5 cards, increase our fold equity etc.
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« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2008, 11:34:07 PM »
Quote from: Colchester Kev on July 17, 2008, 10:41:40 PM
he has AK ...

Call and close eyes imo.

what do I win ??
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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2008, 11:36:27 PM »
i could promise u a tee shirt
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« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2008, 11:38:56 PM »
Quote from: h on July 17, 2008, 11:36:27 PM
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H learns quick IMO
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