Poker - it's a messy business.....

[DaveShoelace]

i blame the sites, not the players.
harrahs & espn happily have a nazi vice-like grip on the reporting of the wsop but care not about allowing sales reps for the big sites to approach & poach players minutes before play begins, no doubt often putting the players in a very awkward spot when their focus should be entirely on the days play.
deals/swaps should be watertight; i'd never sh1t on mates or my own sponsors william hill, but outside of that arena, lets be frank, it's hard enough to make a good living in this game.
if certain sites are allowed & willing to keep offering ridiculous piles of dollars to those who run deep then i really do believe you'd be mad to not consider taking what you can get.
barring fpp/mpp freerolls, the site you qualify on was just the vehicle to get you there, what happens once there is up to the individual.

It is for us, because you keep winning everything.

Well done btw.

But yes, poker is getting very ugly at the moment, what with all this and obviously the UB stuff. I cant help but think that at least one of the November 9 are going to bring scandal to the game. Whether that be sponsorship scandal, betting fixing scandal, some sort of past history that they didnt want revealed etc etc etc

I spose its a good job Matusow didnt make it to the FT really

[Acidmouse]

A 24 YO poker player with a talent manager? ..Poker is going the way of footie, me thinks.

She is an actress I would assume she had one before starting poker.

[boldie]

A 24 YO poker player with a talent manager? ..Poker is going the way of footie, me thinks.

She is an actress I would assume she had one before starting poker.

ah...that explains it...anything we would have seen her in (that I'd admit to to MrsB, that is)?

[Acidmouse]

Look at imdb shows her credits, shes been in a few things.

[AndrewT]

Thursday, July 17, 2008

  Official Statement in response to Pokernews

Tiffany Michelle Official Statement
Thursday, July 17, 2008

 Tony G even quotes in his BLOG "I had been working on putting a deal together for Tiff with PokerStars and they had just emailed me. I knew Tiff could become a huge star and I was going to allow her to do a deal that would protect Pokernews also for the main event". The fact that Pokernews was willing to work with PokerStars on a joint deal says it all – the contract was NONEXCLUSIVE.
 

I understood this to mean for future events from the way Tony G wrote it.

Yes, but the implication is 'Pokernews has no problems with players having joint sponsorship deals'.

This essentially boils down to whether the deal was exclusive or not. I'd think that it wasn't, considering this:

Unfortunately, my people did not get a water tight contract but that is a matter of deliberation.

...which I take to mean that only after the fact did TonyG realise the contract didn't say what he thought it would.

As can be seen from the photos when she busted out, she didn't stop wearing the Pokernews logo, she just wore UB stuff as well.

[boldie]

Look at imdb shows her credits, shes been in a few things.

..hmm..never heard of her..mainly extra work so that would explain why...That explains the Talent manager though...thank F for that, I thought it might be a new trend or something..and one that would be really bad IMO.

[SuffolkPunch]

The agents at the Main Event peed me off. We (Party) had a qualifier who had worn our colours all week, and on Day 6 he was on feature table with Hellmuth. As he was sitting down at start of the day and unpacking chips, an agent from another site tried to get him to switch patches for 20K! Our player was trying to prepare mentally for the biggest poker session of his life - and some clown starts messing his head up at the table, in front of audience. Unbelievable!
Anyway, our man stuck with us and I'm very pleased to say went on to cash for $96,000.

[DaveShoelace]

The agents at the Main Event peed me off. We (Party) had a qualifier who had worn our colours all week, and on Day 6 he was on feature table with Hellmuth. As he was sitting down at start of the day and unpacking chips, an agent from another site tried to get him to switch patches for 20K! Our player was trying to prepare mentally for the biggest poker session of his life - and some clown starts messing his head up at the table, in front of audience. Unbelievable!
Anyway, our man stuck with us and I'm very pleased to say went on to cash for $96,000.

Poor sod, being offered 20 grand for doing nothing.

Did he get an extra few quid from Party?

[boldie]

Surely if the press can't get decent access the agents should also not be allowed access? Don't get me wrong, I am all for pokerplayers making extra money through sponsorship but if you can't focus properly because of these vultures hanging about you'll never get the max out of it.

[SuffolkPunch]

The agents at the Main Event peed me off. We (Party) had a qualifier who had worn our colours all week, and on Day 6 he was on feature table with Hellmuth. As he was sitting down at start of the day and unpacking chips, an agent from another site tried to get him to switch patches for 20K! Our player was trying to prepare mentally for the biggest poker session of his life - and some clown starts messing his head up at the table, in front of audience. Unbelievable!
Anyway, our man stuck with us and I'm very pleased to say went on to cash for $96,000.

Poor sod, being offered 20 grand for doing nothing.

Did he get an extra few quid from Party?

You miss the point of my post. He was loyal to us, contracted to us, but an agent is allowed (no one from Harrah's/ESPN stopped him) to walk up to the feature TV table and try an negotiate a deal right there just before cards are dealt. That to me is poor behaviour.

[byronkincaid]

i'm surprised that gerasimov and especially luske need to be staked, woulda thought they would easily get sponsorship

[boldie]

i dunno why but i'm surprised that gerasimov and especially luske need to be staked, woulda thought they would easily get sponsorship

I'm surprised they need staked if they are that successful...just goes to show everybody is playing out of their bankroll these days.

[DaveShoelace]

The agents at the Main Event peed me off. We (Party) had a qualifier who had worn our colours all week, and on Day 6 he was on feature table with Hellmuth. As he was sitting down at start of the day and unpacking chips, an agent from another site tried to get him to switch patches for 20K! Our player was trying to prepare mentally for the biggest poker session of his life - and some clown starts messing his head up at the table, in front of audience. Unbelievable!
Anyway, our man stuck with us and I'm very pleased to say went on to cash for $96,000.

Poor sod, being offered 20 grand for doing nothing.

Did he get an extra few quid from Party?

You miss the point of my post. He was loyal to us, contracted to us, but an agent is allowed (no one from Harrah's/ESPN stopped him) to walk up to the feature TV table and try an negotiate a deal right there just before cards are dealt. That to me is poor behaviour.

I know, I was just messing about, it is pretty awful that they can be so blatant. I presume the fact that a certain huge poker room sends so many players to the wsop giives them diplomatic immunity in these events when Harrahs are usually rugby tackling anyone without a press pass for walking remotely near the rail.

I just read a press release about your boy in the wsop, he cashed in the ME, won a mini cooper and won a bad beat jackpot all at Party.

And they say UB is rigged.......kiddng

[Suited_Jock]

btw does anyone need an agent.. im gonna start at the ground up.. my fee 10% pm me if interested

[Mango99]

The agents at the Main Event peed me off. We (Party) had a qualifier who had worn our colours all week, and on Day 6 he was on feature table with Hellmuth. As he was sitting down at start of the day and unpacking chips, an agent from another site tried to get him to switch patches for 20K! Our player was trying to prepare mentally for the biggest poker session of his life - and some clown starts messing his head up at the table, in front of audience. Unbelievable!
Anyway, our man stuck with us and I'm very pleased to say went on to cash for $96,000.

Did Party give added value to the package he'd won? If not, I don't think he actually owes Party anything, and maybe should have accepted the deal.

Winning a satellite is a different bag from being sponsored by that site. Though, I guess the T&C at Party stated that online qualifiers have to wear Party clothing?...

e.g. If Dan Carter started wearing UB when he's on final table of next years WSOP ME, I'd be massively peed off.
If an online qualifier did the same, I'd still be disappointed, but I'd have to agree they'd be mad to turn a big offer down. I guess I'd hope they still wore my room's logo at the same time somehow.