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« on: July 25, 2008, 06:28:06 PM »

I feel sick that I didnt get more from Canteenkid on this hand, he has around the same stack as me in this hand $55.

I think he is either on a weak 10 or a Flush draw, possibly even an over pair but he has made no real Donkey moves so far..

So along comes this hand, the short stack who pushes has been fairly tight too so I wonder just how much more I could have got if I played this hand differently

Opinions and different plays appreciated

Dealer: newmanseye1 posts Big Blind $0.50
Dealer: Dealing cards
Dealer: Your cards
Dealer: dilmi calls $0.50
Dealer: 02071974 folds
Dealer: ilia200 raises to $2.25
Dealer: Xo4uAudiTT folds
Dealer: canteenkid calls $2
Dealer: newmanseye1 calls $1.75
Dealer: dilmi calls $1.75
Dealer: Dealing Flop

Dealer: canteenkid bets $4.50
Dealer: newmanseye1 calls $4.50
Dealer: dilmi raises to $13.60
Dealer: ilia200 folds
Dealer: canteenkid calls $9.10
Dealer: newmanseye1 raises to $31.70
Dealer: canteenkid folds
Dealer: Dealing Turn

Dealer: Dealing River

Dealer: newmanseye1 shows Full house

Dealer: dilmi shows Three of a kind

Dealer: newmanseye1 wins with Full house
$65.45
Dealer: newmanseye1 wins with Full house
$65.45
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2008, 07:46:59 PM »


"I think he is either on a weak 10 or a Flush draw, possibly even an over pair but he has made no real Donkey moves so far..

You're killing the board..why push everything in on that flop?

Why not give him a chance to catch his flush or push his overpair?

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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2008, 07:55:38 PM »


"I think he is either on a weak 10 or a Flush draw, possibly even an over pair but he has made no real Donkey moves so far..

You're killing the board..why push everything in on that flop?

Why not give him a chance to catch his flush or push his overpair?



I'm not sure, I think my bottle crashed a little, I remember my initial thought being " bet the other guy out incase he pairs the weak kicker"

I went straight to the 10 rag as a hand for him with his insta call of the all in.

so how do we play it without telegraphing we have them drawing thin
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2008, 08:01:56 PM »


"I think he is either on a weak 10 or a Flush draw, possibly even an over pair but he has made no real Donkey moves so far..

You're killing the board..why push everything in on that flop?

Why not give him a chance to catch his flush or push his overpair?



I'm not sure, I think my bottle crashed a little, I remember my initial thought being " bet the other guy out incase he pairs the weak kicker"

I went straight to the 10 rag as a hand for him with his insta call of the all in.

so how do we play it without telegraphing we have them drawing thin

That's a fair question..the pot is already being built for you..Canteen and Dimli are going nuts...have them go nuts together. Have the guy chase his flush and then try to bet you off.

it's always difficult when you flop a massive hand, the problem is ussually that you can't build a pot...when others are doing that for you you can just sit back, relax and smile Smiley if someone sucks out on you that's just the way it goes...but you want people chasing here.
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2008, 09:20:01 PM »

I think flatting the all in and cold call on the flop is the best move imo. His range is made up of 10x, flush draws and pocket pairs mostly.

You lose just about all the none 10x hands here and if he is a nit/good hand reader some of the 10x hands (unlikely imo). So give him a free card villian has at best 3 outs here most of the time.

Most 10x's are getting it in here and being worried about him hitting a 3 outer, is unecessary just a case of when the money is going on. Just concentrate on the other parts of his range you can get value from.
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2008, 05:15:17 AM »

I think flatting the all in and cold call on the flop is the best move imo. His range is made up of 10x, flush draws and pocket pairs mostly.

You lose just about all the none 10x hands here and if he is a nit/good hand reader some of the 10x hands (unlikely imo). So give him a free card villian has at best 3 outs here most of the time.

Most 10x's are getting it in here and being worried about him hitting a 3 outer, is unecessary just a case of when the money is going on. Just concentrate on the other parts of his range you can get value from.

I dont know why I do it but i seem to be holding my the maxim, " win a small pot and dont lose a big pot"  hence when I know I am ahead my instinct at present is to scoop whats there to prevent a bad beat

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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2008, 11:58:57 AM »

lol i had a hand similar to this at the end of last yr, id just got screwed over for 3 buyins at £.50/£1 and donked another so im in for £400. thought fuk it sat in  £2/£5 game, called an EP raise with 66 on the button 2 hands in -flop comes 10106 im like yesss im gonna get even with just this 1 hand, so just me and the raiser in the pot he bets out i flat, turn is a jack he bets again i shove he obv has 10j and im like fuck the world!!!!!   lol
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