DTD

[The_Kid]

A question...

does one automatically get barred if one criticises DTD in any way?

[scotty2hatty]

hell no, fire away

[The_Kid]

I dont have anything specific to say against DTD. It just seems that lots of people at the moment are getting barred for positing any kind of criticism anywhere whatsoever

[MPOWER]

Hello Ed

With the changes made at DTD regarding Competitions and Structure
it proves the DTD crew are willing to listen and  come to the party. I
think all there asking is play nicely.  

A quote from Rob...

"Telling someone their front door needs painting is fine, but telling the whole world that their house is a 'cess pit' is disrespectful - it means you won't be ever invited round for a BBQ"


Regards

M

[The_Kid]

Hi john

how u doin long time no c.
Ye  agree DTD schedule changes are all good. Im just a litle concerned that anyone who criticises the club in any way gets barred.  I have always supported DTD; I have played there a lot I just dont want to see them bar too many people and kill their own business.  For instance Mick Mccool got barred simply for posting some constructive criticisms on his blog.

[jizzemm]

I think there is a way of going about it, Mick Mccool did it publicly when i'm sure Rob would have been happy to listen to any comments he had.

[Grier78]

Posting criticisms on a forum or blog is similar to standing outside the club with a billboard, you can do it but don't expect to be invited in.

[robyong]

A question...

does one automatically get barred if one criticises DTD in any way?

It probably depends if I liked you in the first place, there is no hard and fast rule, its a private club . My friends are not gonna critise DTD in public and the club has been built for them. If you critisise DTD and I don't know you or don't like you, you will get barred if I get to see it. We have a suggestions box for our members and I personally read every comment, so anyone that decides to critisise DTD publicly is doing it to be malicious.

[phatomch]

lol best of blonde ..post of year....

[WarBwastard]

A question...

does one automatically get barred if one criticises DTD in any way?

Amongst Rob Yong's explanation recently for the reasons behind the changes he's making, he mentioned wanting DTD to feel like a "big home game."  Something like that, so it's worth baring that in mind if you had any criticisms.  If someone invited you over to their home for an evening to play poker and you felt that you didn't like the games played, the drinks served or the food - would you go home and put it all on your personal blog - "went to a mates to play poker, no offense to him, but it was shit' the Twiglets were stale, the lager was from Vietnam and the games were boring."  Or would you subtly and politely try to suggest maybe some Pringles were in order the next time you were invited to come and play.

The tone in some of the criticism's seem to indicate the players who go to DTD see it as theirs and like a Casino, that DTD needs them more they need it, but I don't that's so on this occasion.  No venue is perfect, but it's important not to take the good places for granted. 

[EvilPie]

There's a massive difference between making a suggestion about how the club is run or simply moaning that you don't like a, b or c.

Every businessman is willing to listen to constructive criticism as that can lead to improvements. However, simply moaning and saying "I don't like this, I don't like that, this is rubbish etc..." is not constructive unless it backed up with sound reasoning. Unfortunately "because I say so" is not sound reasoning.

If you have any comments that you would like to make why not drop Rob or Simon a PM on here? That way they know you're not just trying to air your views and force your opinion on other's.

I have done this myself and received a very courteous reply and was assured that my suggestion had been taken on board. It doesn't mean that anything will immediately be done about it but it may be something that they hadn't considered before and will now think about.

Trust me they don't mind suggestions or constructive criticism.

What they do mind is people moaning and I can't blame them one bit.

Unless they're moaning about the price of the drinks of course 

[kinboshi]

A question...

does one automatically get barred if one criticises DTD in any way?

Amongst Rob Yong's explanation recently for the reasons behind the changes he's making, he mentioned wanting DTD to feel like a "big home game."  Something like that, so it's worth baring that in mind if you had any criticisms.  If someone invited you over to their home for an evening to play poker and you felt that you didn't like the games played, the drinks served or the food - would you go home and put it all on your personal blog - "went to a mates to play poker, no offense to him, but it was shit' the Twiglets were stale, the lager was from Vietnam and the games were boring."  Or would you subtly and politely try to suggest maybe some Pringles were in order the next time you were invited to come and play.

The tone in some of the criticism's seem to indicate the players who go to DTD see it as theirs and like a Casino, that DTD needs them more they need it, but I don't that's so on this occasion.  No venue is perfect, but it's important not to take the good places for granted. 

Good post.  Although you're now barred from Vietnam.


I'm not a big-stakes player, and so card rooms aren't that fussed about catering for me as I don't make them the money the 'bigger' players do.

DTD does provide me with somewhere to play ,and it's where I enjoy spending an evening most weekends.  It's not perfect (nowhere is), but for me it's as close as it's going to get.

Last night the background music took a turn for the worse, and Enrique Iglesias was putting me on life-tilt, mentioned this to the staff and they even sorted that out!  

[EvilPie]

A question...

does one automatically get barred if one criticises DTD in any way?

Amongst Rob Yong's explanation recently for the reasons behind the changes he's making, he mentioned wanting DTD to feel like a "big home game."  Something like that, so it's worth baring that in mind if you had any criticisms.  If someone invited you over to their home for an evening to play poker and you felt that you didn't like the games played, the drinks served or the food - would you go home and put it all on your personal blog - "went to a mates to play poker, no offense to him, but it was shit' the Twiglets were stale, the lager was from Vietnam and the games were boring."  Or would you subtly and politely try to suggest maybe some Pringles were in order the next time you were invited to come and play.

The tone in some of the criticism's seem to indicate the players who go to DTD see it as theirs and like a Casino, that DTD needs them more they need it, but I don't that's so on this occasion.  No venue is perfect, but it's important not to take the good places for granted. 

[EvilPie]

People need to be careful regarding DTD. Rob built this club for poker players to enjoy the game they love and I'm certain that he isn't interested in making a profit out of it. However I'm sure that he also doesn't like losing thousand's every week which I wouldn't be surprised if the club does at the moment.

When people then moan about paying a couple of quid for a coffee he will get a little dejected and wonder why he opened the place in the first place.

Next thing you know he shuts it and fair play to him.

I believe from the posts I have read that Rob sees this place as a hobby and a break from his more serious businesses. If my instincts are correct he's probably not 100% happy with his hobby at the moment and wants to see it improve.

Most people who don't enjoy their hobbies simply stop doing them and try something else.

Try to support the club a bit through what I believe are tough times. I don't mean you have to attend more often just quit whinging or I promise you the place will close within a year or two.

If you moan then you probably wouldn't mind the place closing. Therefore I assume you wouldn't mind being barred either.

Like I said before this doesn't mean they won't listen to suggestions. Just keep them private unless they are carefully thought out and constructive.

[Raindogs]

A question...

does one automatically get barred if one criticises DTD in any way?

Amongst Rob Yong's explanation recently for the reasons behind the changes he's making, he mentioned wanting DTD to feel like a "big home game."  Something like that, so it's worth baring that in mind if you had any criticisms.  If someone invited you over to their home for an evening to play poker and you felt that you didn't like the games played, the drinks served or the food - would you go home and put it all on your personal blog - "went to a mates to play poker, no offense to him, but it was shit' the Twiglets were stale, the lager was from Vietnam and the games were boring."  Or would you subtly and politely try to suggest maybe some Pringles were in order the next time you were invited to come and play.

The tone in some of the criticism's seem to indicate the players who go to DTD see it as theirs and like a Casino, that DTD needs them more they need it, but I don't that's so on this occasion.  No venue is perfect, but it's important not to take the good places for granted. 

I think that has summed it up perfectly. 

However people may feel it is bit much that any public discussion of the club must be positive or you may get barred.  I read Mick McCool's comments and didn't feel there was anything in it to justify getting barred.

...We have a suggestions box for our members and I personally read every comment, so anyone that decides to critisise DTD publicly is doing it to be malicious.

That's a bit much.  People like to moan (especially poker players) but to suggest that any negative comments are a malicious attack on the club smacks of being over sensitive to criticism.