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« on: August 16, 2008, 04:59:55 AM »

***** Pacific Hand History for Game 66764673 *****
$2/$4 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 08 16 02:57:08 2008
Table Grappa (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: Feboman ( $400 )
Seat 5: SCC15 ( $410.3 )
Seat 6: Gr1msby ( $550.5 )
Seat 8: guess_what ( $416.39 )
Seat 9: Hlynzi22 ( $693 )
Hlynzi22 posts small blind [$2].
Feboman posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Gr1msby [ ]
SCC15 calls [$4].
Gr1msby raises [$18].
guess_what calls [$18].
Hlynzi22 calls [$16].
Feboman folds.
SCC15 calls [$14].
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , Two Clubs ]
Hlynzi22 checks.
SCC15 checks.
Gr1msby bets [$48].
guess_what calls [$48].
Hlynzi22 raises [$166].
SCC15 folds.
Gr1msby...

hlynzi22 is 21/15/2.31 (5000+ hands) solid player
SCC15 is 35/4.7/0.54 (100+ hands) loose passive
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2008, 06:25:13 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2008, 10:33:20 AM »

fold

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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2008, 11:17:22 AM »


yeah,I can't find the call here.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2008, 12:13:22 PM »

Easy shove.
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2008, 01:09:02 PM »

were only in for $60 odd,  granted we do have good fold equity, but when i shove this i expect to be snapped by a set, just screams a set imo
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2008, 01:28:55 PM »

Shove as its Pacific Poker. Shove Party & I Poker too.

Fold Stars & TILT.
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2008, 05:09:06 PM »

Don't think I get away from a shove here. Think the raise is too big for a set generally. I'm more concerned him having the ace high flush draw.
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2008, 05:20:35 PM »

Don't think I get away from a shove here. Think the raise is too big for a set generally. I'm more concerned him having the ace high flush draw.

So you're saying you think he'll fold the ace high FD if you shove, yes?
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2008, 05:23:55 PM »

his range here is sets, 89, nut flush draw plus occasionally 6d7d, 10dJd. Stove your equity against this and if villain is solid then this range is right and ur fked.
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2008, 05:29:30 PM »

Obviously not but generally hard to believe we're not 50% here most of the time which pot odds dictate shove. On pacific im not ruling out JT or even T7 as possibilities. Ace high flush draw the only hand crushing us imo.
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2008, 05:30:30 PM »

Obviously not but generally hard to believe we're not 50% here most of the time which pot odds dictate shove. On pacific im not ruling out JT or even T7 as possibilities. Ace high flush draw the only hand crushing us imo.

50%? where?
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2008, 05:37:15 PM »

if he has any worse draw that is the case which is very plausible here. JJ, TT. 89 seems too unlikely. 22 is possible but I stand by ship it in.
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2008, 05:42:28 PM »

I'm not saying it's wrong to pass here perhaps deepness of stacks makes this safer option.

It's tight and don't think you can say it's a straight forward pass.
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2008, 05:46:19 PM »

if he has any worse draw that is the case which is very plausible here. JJ, TT. 89 seems too unlikely. 22 is possible but I stand by ship it in.

It is considering there is a 3rd person in there who flatted the 48$ bet and who is still to act. what do you think he has?
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