Income Evidence

[PocketLady]

I've got a bit of a problem...Basically I am going off to do my teacher training in September and I am entitled to and have applied for a student loan.  When I was an undergraduate it was my parent's income that was assessed to decide my entitlement, but because I'm (probably inaccurately!) considered to be an adult, it is my income that is now assessed for my student loan entitlement.  They want evidence of all of my income for the last three years.  The problem I have is that for the last year I have done nothing but play poker, and before that I did 5 or 6 temp/part time jobs and as I have moved house about 4 times in the last three years I have no idea where my wage slips/P45s have disappeared to...The question is how can I prove my income (or hopefully the lack of it, as I get more money that way!) without having any wage slips or P45s?   

[phatomch]

tell them you lived of handouts from your parents, but youv'e now been cut off

[PocketLady]

Lol, that's the problem.  I have to prove that I have been supporting myself financially for the last three years, but at the same time I have to prove that I haven't been earning much so I can get the full loan...

[Dingdell]

Dept of pensions or whatever they are called with have details of your earnings from the tax you have paid. Poker earnings are not taken into account as far as I'm aware for anything that needs to be assessed. (if that makes sense)

[PocketLady]

Yes I think it's the Inland Revenue, but I've just been on the website to try and find a phone number and this is the list of contact numbers for individuals and I'm very confused...


Tax
Bereavement

    What to do about tax when someone dies

Complex Personal Returns

    Contact details of the Complex Personal Return Teams

Construction Industry Scheme

    Help and advice for subcontractors and contractors within the Construction Industry Scheme

Enquiries about tax on the estates of deceased people

    If you need advice about tax on someone's estate

Income Tax and Capital Gains Tax enquiries for non-UK residents

    Tax enquiries from people who live or work abroad

Income Tax and Capital Gains Tax for the employed

    For all enquiries relating to employees' personal tax affairs

Income Tax and Capital Gains Tax for the self-employed

    For all enquiries relating to self-employed taxpayers' personal tax affairs

Individual Savings Accounts (ISA) enquiries

    Information about tax rules on ISAs

IR35 enquiries

    For general enquiries about the IR35 intermediaries legislation

Newly Self-Employed Helpline

    Help and advice about National Insurance, tax and VAT for the newly self-employed

Non-UK entertainers enquiries

    For non-uk resident entertainers or sportspeople who perform in the UK

Probate and Inheritance Tax enquiries

    Information on Probate and Inheritance Tax following a death

Register to receive bank and building society interest without tax taken off

    Check whether you should be receiving gross interest on your savings

Seafarers' enquiries

    Tax enquiries relating to salary and income from customers working on a boat, ship, or cruiseliner

Self Assessment and PAYE - how to pay

    For advice on what payment methods can be used for Self Assessment and PAYE tax payments

Self Assessment forms ordering

    If you need to order extra pages for the main tax return

Self Assessment Helpline

    For advice completing your Self Assessment tax return

Self Assessment Payment Helpline

    If you need more time to pay, please contact us as soon as you receive your Self Assessment statement

Shares and assets valuation enquiries

    For enquiries relating to the valuation of unquoted shares and other assets

Stamp Duty Land Tax enquiries

    For enquiries relating to stamp taxes payable on land, property and shares

Tax enquiries for crown servants abroad

    General enquiries for crown servants living abroad

National Insurance
National Insurance deficiency enquiries

    Information about shortfalls in your National Insurance accounts and the payment of voluntary National Insurance contributions

National Insurance enquiries for individuals

    For enquiries relating to National Insurance rates and thresholds, Statutory Payments, etc

National Insurance enquiries for non-UK residents

    Enquiries relating to National Insurance, pension status and health care provision for people under State Pension age living abroad

National Insurance for the self-employed enquiries

    Information and assistance with National Insurance for self-employed people

National Insurance registrations

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Tax credits and other benefits
Child benefit

    Help and advice for Child Benefit customers

Child Trust Fund

    For information and advice about the Child Trust Fund

Guardian's Allowance

    For help and advice on all Guardian's Allowance claims

Tax credits enquiries

    For general information about tax credits

VAT, Customs, Duty and Excise
Tariff Classification Service

    For advice about classification issues

VAT Online Services Helpdesk

    For help and assistance using the VAT online facilities

VAT, customs and excise and duties enquiries

    For VAT, customs and excise and duties enquiries

See also
Complaints about HM Revenue & Customs

    What to do if you're unhappy with our service

National Minimum Wage enquiries and complaints

    For help and advice about the National Minimum Wage

National Yachtline

    For information about sailing your yacht or pleasurecraft to and from the UK

Online Services Helpdesk

    For technical help with the online filing of Self Assessment tax returns, PAYE for employers, Corporation Tax, stamp taxes, pension schemes or any other online service

Report a benefit thief online

    Report a benefit thief online

Report fraudulent emails

    Tell us if you suspect you have received a fraudulent email that mentions HM Revenue & Customs

Tax Evasion Hotline

    A confidential phone line for you to report somebody who is not paying their fair share of tax

VAT and customs fraud reporting

    Contact the Customs Hotline to report all types of smuggling, customs, excise and VAT fraud

[Jon MW]

You could report yourself for tax evasion, and then they'll work out how much they think you've earned.

[TheChipPrince]

National Yachtline

    For information about sailing your yacht or pleasurecraft to and from the UK

Try this 1, hey thank me later, its no problem... 

[PocketLady]

Lol, see this is what happens when you don't have a "General Enquires" number.  I'm going to phone by the Tax Bereavement line in a minute and tell them I've died but that I want to know how much tax I paid over the last three years.

[Dingdell]

LOl - try this one.  Income Tax and Capital Gains Tax for the employed

    For all enquiries relating to employees' personal tax affairs

[Claw75]

LOl - try this one.  Income Tax and Capital Gains Tax for the employed

    For all enquiries relating to employees' personal tax affairs

that one!

[PocketLady]

Lol, what a joke this had turned out to be.  I clicked on the link that you mentioned Dingdell and it asked me for an Employer Reference number to bring up the phone number of my local tax office.  Apparently after two hours spent googling to try and find the number another way I realised that it's impossible to contact your local tax office without any previous correspondance or this number, which is an absolute joke.  Someone did give me another number but it turned out to be out of service. 

As I haven't technically been employed since 2006 obviously I don't have a reference number...So I rang up my mum and used her reference number only to find out that they can't help me anyway lol.  I did get it sorted in the end and they are going to send me the evidence.  However it would be nice if the Inland Revenue actually provided a helpful and useful website, but I've just realised that I'm talking about the Government so I am obviously asking the impossible.

[kinboshi]

What do they say on the advert?

"Tax needn't be taxing..."

[StuartHopkin]

Do you live in Northampton pocketlady?

I can probably get the number for you!

[PocketLady]

Yeah I do, but I think I've managed to sort it now, thanks though Stuart.  I forgot to mention that I did also ring up the online website technical support because I didn't know who else to ring and I got told that "Your local tax office number should be in your phone book".  God these guys are helpful...

[Kev B]

You could report yourself for tax evasion, and then they'll work out how much they think you've earned.

Now that's funny. You would have a very large assesment figure by the time they have finished with you.