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Topic: Keegan (Read 29045 times)
Acidmouse
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Re: Keegan
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Reply #75 on:
September 05, 2008, 08:43:29 AM »
All the idiots are blaming wise. Now I dislike wise more then most but how can you blame someone hired by Ashley for being there? makes no sense.
If they are looking for someone to blame then it's the way the club undermined Keegan by appointing people without asking him, buying players he didn't want, selling playing he wanted to keep and being told he wasn't a good coach by people who know nothing about football but hired by Ashley, promising money that was not forthcoming etc etc.
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DaveShoelace
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Re: Keegan
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Reply #76 on:
September 05, 2008, 10:09:08 AM »
Quote from: Acidmouse on September 05, 2008, 08:43:29 AM
All the idiots are blaming wise. Now I dislike wise more then most but how can you blame someone hired by Ashley for being there? makes no sense.
If they are looking for someone to blame then it's the way the club undermined Keegan by appointing people without asking him, buying players he didn't want, selling playing he wanted to keep and being told he wasn't a good coach by people who know nothing about football but hired by Ashley, promising money that was not forthcoming etc etc.
I blame the credit crunch, not wise
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AndrewT
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Re: Keegan
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Reply #77 on:
September 05, 2008, 10:26:26 AM »
Quote from: DaveShoelace on September 05, 2008, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: Acidmouse on September 05, 2008, 08:43:29 AM
All the idiots are blaming wise. Now I dislike wise more then most but how can you blame someone hired by Ashley for being there? makes no sense.
If they are looking for someone to blame then it's the way the club undermined Keegan by appointing people without asking him, buying players he didn't want, selling playing he wanted to keep and being told he wasn't a good coach by people who know nothing about football but hired by Ashley, promising money that was not forthcoming etc etc.
I blame
Boldie
, not wise
FYP
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boldie
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Don't make me mad
Re: Keegan
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Reply #78 on:
September 05, 2008, 10:37:17 AM »
Quote from: AndrewT on September 05, 2008, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on September 05, 2008, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: Acidmouse on September 05, 2008, 08:43:29 AM
All the idiots are blaming wise. Now I dislike wise more then most but how can you blame someone hired by Ashley for being there? makes no sense.
If they are looking for someone to blame then it's the way the club undermined Keegan by appointing people without asking him, buying players he didn't want, selling playing he wanted to keep and being told he wasn't a good coach by people who know nothing about football but hired by Ashley, promising money that was not forthcoming etc etc.
I blame
Boldie
, not wise
FYP
again, this is probably my fault.
If I hadn't turned them down when they came to me for the sporting director job Wise wouldn't have gotten in.
If it had been any other club (well, not Sunderland either..or Liverpool or Everton) I probably would have taken the job....It's just....well...
I hate Geordies as they go against everything Darwin has ever thought us about evolution.
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Matt.NFFC.
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Re: Keegan
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Reply #79 on:
September 05, 2008, 01:10:41 PM »
One thing is for sure, this one's gonna run and run, who do you think would be crazy enough to take the job on now everythings coming out in the wash.
They've got Hull City next, wonder what the attendance will be?
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Longy
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Re: Keegan
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Reply #80 on:
September 05, 2008, 02:52:44 PM »
Quote from: boldie on September 05, 2008, 10:37:17 AM
Quote from: AndrewT on September 05, 2008, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on September 05, 2008, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: Acidmouse on September 05, 2008, 08:43:29 AM
All the idiots are blaming wise. Now I dislike wise more then most but how can you blame someone hired by Ashley for being there? makes no sense.
If they are looking for someone to blame then it's the way the club undermined Keegan by appointing people without asking him, buying players he didn't want, selling playing he wanted to keep and being told he wasn't a good coach by people who know nothing about football but hired by Ashley, promising money that was not forthcoming etc etc.
I blame
Boldie
, not wise
FYP
again, this is probably my fault.
If I hadn't turned them down when they came to me for the sporting director job Wise wouldn't have gotten in.
If it had been any other club (well, not Sunderland either..or Liverpool or Everton) I probably would have taken the job....It's just....well...
I hate Geordies as they go against everything Darwin has ever thought us about evolution.
Ashley wouldn't agree to you posting on blonde all day?
I deffo blame Ashley for all the worlds problems now.
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boldie
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Re: Keegan
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Reply #81 on:
September 05, 2008, 04:03:44 PM »
Quote from: Longy on September 05, 2008, 02:52:44 PM
Quote from: boldie on September 05, 2008, 10:37:17 AM
Quote from: AndrewT on September 05, 2008, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on September 05, 2008, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: Acidmouse on September 05, 2008, 08:43:29 AM
All the idiots are blaming wise. Now I dislike wise more then most but how can you blame someone hired by Ashley for being there? makes no sense.
If they are looking for someone to blame then it's the way the club undermined Keegan by appointing people without asking him, buying players he didn't want, selling playing he wanted to keep and being told he wasn't a good coach by people who know nothing about football but hired by Ashley, promising money that was not forthcoming etc etc.
I blame
Boldie
, not wise
FYP
again, this is probably my fault.
If I hadn't turned them down when they came to me for the sporting director job Wise wouldn't have gotten in.
If it had been any other club (well, not Sunderland either..or Liverpool or Everton) I probably would have taken the job....It's just....well...
I hate Geordies as they go against everything Darwin has ever thought us about evolution.
Ashley wouldn't agree to you posting on blonde all day?
I deffo blame Ashley for all the worlds problems now.
yeah that's pretty much it
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mondatoo
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Re: Keegan
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Reply #82 on:
September 05, 2008, 11:09:15 PM »
Quote from: boldie on September 05, 2008, 10:37:17 AM
Quote from: AndrewT on September 05, 2008, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on September 05, 2008, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: Acidmouse on September 05, 2008, 08:43:29 AM
All the idiots are blaming wise. Now I dislike wise more then most but how can you blame someone hired by Ashley for being there? makes no sense.
If they are looking for someone to blame then it's the way the club undermined Keegan by appointing people without asking him, buying players he didn't want, selling playing he wanted to keep and being told he wasn't a good coach by people who know nothing about football but hired by Ashley, promising money that was not forthcoming etc etc.
I blame
Boldie
, not wise
FYP
again, this is probably my fault.
If I hadn't turned them down when they came to me for the sporting director job Wise wouldn't have gotten in.
If it had been any other club (well, not Sunderland either..or Liverpool or Everton) I probably would have taken the job....It's just....well...
I hate Geordies as they go against everything Darwin has ever
thought
us about evolution.
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Rooky9
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Re: Keegan
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Reply #83 on:
September 06, 2008, 06:36:05 AM »
mond u managed to respond to that with more class than I could ever dream of! Read that and matts comment and I just had to not reply!
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ShatnerPants
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Re: Keegan
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Reply #84 on:
September 06, 2008, 10:49:33 AM »
In the modern game the trend is that the first team manager is actually the first team coach, and all the management is done at a higher level.
If Ashley wants that, then no problem. The problem, as always, appears to be lack of communication when he employed KK. If KK can't work under those conditions, then it's best he disappears asap.
And I have to admit that I've chuckled all week.
But if I were a NU fan, I'd be more upset about the embarrassment of it all, not losing KK himself. He's a decent guy, and a half decent coach.
That's all.
KK was never going to get them into the top 4. Ashley brought Wise in to buy the players so that the coach can get them competitive. Wise didn't buy the players that KK wanted, he bought the players he thinks are good enough to do the job.
Get Poyet in sharpish, and then judge Wise to see how good he is.
I still think NU fans have it better than WHU fans, tho'
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mondatoo
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Reply #85 on:
September 06, 2008, 10:55:33 AM »
KEVIN KEEGAN WILL BE BACK AT NEWCASTLE UNITED FOOTBALL CLUB AND YOU CAN ALL QUOTE ME ON THAT IT WILL BE SO GOOD WHEN IT HAPPENS AS WELL I CAN'T WAIT
THE ARTICLE ON BACK OF TIMES YESTERDAY SAID WISE WINS THE WAR TRUST ME HE WON A BATTLE HE AND MIKE ASHLEY WILL LOSE THE WAR TO US THE FANS, I USE THE WORD WAR TO MAKE THE POINT OF THAT ANALOGY(IS THAT THE RIGHT WORD SURELY NOT) ANYWAY THIS IS NOT FINISHED BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.
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ShatnerPants
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Reply #86 on:
September 06, 2008, 11:18:29 AM »
Quote from: mondatoo on September 06, 2008, 10:55:33 AM
KEVIN KEEGAN WILL BE BACK AT NEWCASTLE UNITED FOOTBALL CLUB AND YOU CAN ALL QUOTE ME ON THAT IT WILL BE SO GOOD WHEN IT HAPPENS AS WELL I CAN'T WAIT
THE ARTICLE ON BACK OF TIMES YESTERDAY SAID WISE WINS THE WAR TRUST ME HE WON A BATTLE HE AND MIKE ASHLEY WILL LOSE THE WAR TO US THE FANS, I USE THE WORD WAR TO MAKE THE POINT OF THAT ANALOGY(IS THAT THE RIGHT WORD SURELY NOT) ANYWAY THIS IS NOT FINISHED BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.
Not wanting to start a 'war', but why are you so besotted with Keegan , anyway ? How long have you been a NU fan ? Surely the owner ( even if he is a total dick ) who is willing to put his money into the club, is more important than a figurehead manager.
Also, why do NU fans love the idea of Shearer becoming manager at some point ? He's not a manager. Noone knows if he'll ever make it as a manager ( personally I have serious doubts about that, anyway ).
Surely Newcastle deserve a top quality coach who will improve them as a club ?
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mondatoo
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Reply #87 on:
September 06, 2008, 12:17:30 PM »
Quote from: ShatnerPants on September 06, 2008, 11:18:29 AM
Quote from: mondatoo on September 06, 2008, 10:55:33 AM
KEVIN KEEGAN WILL BE BACK AT NEWCASTLE UNITED FOOTBALL CLUB AND YOU CAN ALL QUOTE ME ON THAT IT WILL BE SO GOOD WHEN IT HAPPENS AS WELL I CAN'T WAIT
THE ARTICLE ON BACK OF TIMES YESTERDAY SAID WISE WINS THE WAR TRUST ME HE WON A BATTLE HE AND MIKE ASHLEY WILL LOSE THE WAR TO US THE FANS, I USE THE WORD WAR TO MAKE THE POINT OF THAT ANALOGY(IS THAT THE RIGHT WORD SURELY NOT) ANYWAY THIS IS NOT FINISHED BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.
Not wanting to start a 'war', but why are you so besotted with Keegan , anyway ? How long have you been a NU fan ? Surely the owner ( even if he is a total dick ) who is willing to put his money into the club, is more important than a figurehead manager.
Also, why do NU fans love the idea of Shearer becoming manager at some point ? He's not a manager. Noone knows if he'll ever make it as a manager ( personally I have serious doubts about that, anyway ).
Surely Newcastle deserve a top quality coach who will improve them as a club ?
I;m not bessotted with Keegan,What is the relevance of my time of being a newcastle fan but i'm 22 and have supported them all my life if that helps somehow?
Christ no offence but your post is riddled with inaccurate points that are just wrong."Surely the owner who is willing to put money into the club" he's spent 10 million since he came do you think that is a lot of money for a prem club in a years period ??
Where do you get your information from that all fans love the idea of Shearer being manager most genuine fans i speak to would not want his 1st job to be here as thats not that ideal.
Your point of him being a figurehead manager is also ridiculous.Kevin Keegan is loved up here for many reasons.The ones that matter to me are:I believe he's a good manager,I know that he understands what the fans are about and what we expect from our team(these are not to win every tropghy possible as some people ludicrously seem to think but just to play decent football),he is a passionate man and cares about the club,he has interigty and dignity that isn't seen a lot in the game today.These points make him the ideal person to lead our team
As for Mike Ashley ive made many posts recently about him and how he's taking the p**s so i won't bother going into all that again.Can you not see that he's not a good owner to have at any club.We lost out on players because he won't pay them decent wages.He supposedly offered out Michael Owen our best player to clubs on the final day of the transfer window without even telling the manager (i'm pretty sure this is true as it's been said in 3/4 different papers and on our fan sites).He is a penny pincher and he also has the club set up where the poeple who are running it and even on Tyneside most of the time.Kevin Keegan revieved a letter to tell him on Thursday the boards proposal to try to keep him do you think a letter is an inappropriate way to deal with this.I could type for the next our reasons why this man and his team are a joke but i'll not bore you
I knew there was a reason why i was going to stay off this thread
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Rookie (Rodney)
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September 06, 2008, 12:35:25 PM »
Keegan is a shite manager FACT
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mondatoo
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September 06, 2008, 12:56:39 PM »
This is off our main fans site
Your response
Having now managed to read through a decent number of the emails you've sent in, the following set of actions are overwhelmingly in the majority:
Not to boycott the Hull game.
Not to buy club merchandise, including food & drink.
Not to drink in Shearer's Bar or any bar within SJP.
Not to shop at Sports Direct, Sports Soccer & Lillywhites.
The strong view is that watching and supporting the team in black and white is a birthright and fans refuse to have that taken away from them by the actions of outsiders.
Words like "pride" and "dignity" are being used and as we hinted at on Thursday night,
the mourning of Keegan's demise has quickly given way to much greater fears over where NUFC is heading now under its current leadership.
The preferred scenario of most is for Ashley to sell up and ship out, as his actions have tarnished the "product" to an extent where it's become "damaged goods" and will only continue to deteriorate and reduce its market value.
Needless to say, any future shirt-wearing or match watching among the fans by the owner would not be advisable - although we're sure that's already been
taken off the agenda for fear of further provocation.
Whatever good feeling that had been produced by his forays among the fans is long gone, as are his chances of "having fun" here, as his interview last month mentioned.
As to what form protests inside the ground will take, that will doubtless become clearer over the coming days, but we're duty-bound to urge that the more extreme views being expressed aren't translated into actions.
To stress this point further, pitch invasions etc. would make headlines but affect the team on the field - and as we're hearing, that's not the collective will of supporters.
That and any other criminal acts would only reinforce perceptions of ungovernability and deter possible new investors. Ground bans and criminal records would inevitably follow - please don't become stars of CCTV.
PS: Again, we're trying to show a representative view of what people are expressing to us here - and not being deliberately inclusive or exclusive of any opinion.
We are aware of the people who are taking their own forms of action in the form of contacting the club over cancelling season tickets, direct debits etc.
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