Keegan

[mondatoo]

[X] I knew i should of not wasted my time with this thread.

[  ] Most of the comments on here are accurate

[TheChipPrince]

On a lighter note, can Danny Guthrie please recieve a 10-match ban for that shocking attempt at a tackle, which it turns out today has broken Craig Fagan's leg...  Fancy clapping the fans on the way off, w*nker...

Won't happen.

It was just an unlucky challenge.

After Taylor got away with breaking Eduardo's leg last season, there's no way Guthrie will be punished.

I agree Taylor didn't intend to do the damage he did.  Neither did Guthrie.  But I still think the severity of the outcome is relevant.   The punishment for abh and manslaughter are different, although the intention to hurt in either case might be the same.

What?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He piled into him with intention to hurt him, it wasnt unlucky in the slightest, it is indefensible...  Of course he wont get more than a 3 match ban, but no one can possibly say that was 'unlucky'

[Acidmouse]

On a lighter note, can Danny Guthrie please recieve a 10-match ban for that shocking attempt at a tackle, which it turns out today has broken Craig Fagan's leg...  Fancy clapping the fans on the way off, w*nker...

Won't happen.

It was just an unlucky challenge.

After Taylor got away with breaking Eduardo's leg last season, there's no way Guthrie will be punished.

I agree Taylor didn't intend to do the damage he did.  Neither did Guthrie.  But I still think the severity of the outcome is relevant.   The punishment for abh and manslaughter are different, although the intention to hurt in either case might be the same.

ROFL, and unlucky challenge? well fuk me. He gritted his teeth and took two swings at him. He lost the plot and tried to hurt him.

How anyone can say that was an unlucky challenge......sigh.

[Acidmouse]

[X] I knew i should of not wasted my time with this thread.

[  ] Most of the comments on here are accurate

You came out with loads of stuff why wise it to blame, none of them were facts but based around prejudice and misconceptions. I dislike the little shit more then anyone but you have to wake up and smell the coffee sometimes.

[ShatnerPants]

I'm not talking about the reality of it, I'm talking about his defense.

'' I didn't meant to hurt him, I was just frustrated coz someone in the crowd spat at me, and I slipped, guvnor ''

[TheChipPrince]

I agree Taylor didn't intend to do the damage he did.  Neither did Guthrie. 

I'm not talking about the reality of it, I'm talking about his defense.

 

[TightEnd]

Unlucky challenge?

Wow

He had a swing, missed

He ran on a further five yards and had another swing, from behind, catching him behind the knee

It was awful, and much like Thatcher on Mendes should receive a longer ban

[ShatnerPants]

Of course he meant to hurt him.  But he didn't mean to break his leg.

He was frustrated and swung out..... twice.

He got him and got sent off.  And if there were justice, he'd get a lengthy ban.

But his intention was just to kick the bloke.  He wasn't preplanning on breaking his leg.  That was just an unhappy consequence.

But since the FA ruled on Taylor, the actual damage done is irrelevant.  It's the premeditated intent that matters.  Guthrie intended to kick him.  Which he succeeded in doing.

And he got himself sent off for it.  With a 3 match ban coming his way.

He'll avoid any extended ban because he'll argue that he didn't intend to break his leg, it was just a over exuberant challenge, your honour.

And he'll get away with it.  Because Taylor did.

PS. Irony doesn't always translate in written form - sorry for any flaming that occurred.  It was a horror tackle.

[Rookie (Rodney)]

Just tried to find it on youtube, dont think its on there tho. Anyone got a link?

[Rod Paradise]

[X] I knew i should of not wasted my time with this thread.

[  ] Most of the comments on here are accurate

[  ] Everyone is now better informed.
[  ] Newcastle fans are angry at the right guy.
[  ] Keegan's got staying power.

[Rooky9]

The last few pages of this are pretty amusing (the whole thing obv is for some!) and pretty inaccurate from what I can tell.

Shearer's been sacked as ambassador for the club because of what he said last week about the strange set up so i'd say that's unlikely

That's what I meant about going to him cap in hand.

1) Shearer hasn't been sacked on the backl of any comments. The contract he was on expired last summer and wasn't renewed - he was givena box as thanks for his efforts. Personally I think he should have put his hand in his pocket! I'm taking this from a statement issued by the club, which although doesn't automatically make it true, its more reliable than a newspaper story.

Someone willing to pay £250m for a start off & £20m a season - and you've driven him out for Keegan??? You lot are mental & if he bankrupts your club to get back what he can you've only the fans to blame.

2) While I think there was sense in Ashley's statement some people seem to have fallen for the big 240m figure.  Okay so that is the money he has in the put right now. But its not money he has donated to NUFC! Its in there as an investment and you can bet your life that he'll be getting all that back. The 20m figure for willing to to put in every year is interesting. We are one of the few clubs who were in the black so it would have been interesting as to how that would have gone. Once again however him putting in 20m a year isn't him being generous. The value of the club would have been rising along with it - if not more so if his model was so good.

I just don't get the anger towards wise.

3) Wise hasn't been popular from the start, as a player or since. He has no connection with the club and no credencials to do what he is doing (being an actaual director of a company!). He is draining money from the club in the form of the salary & expenses which gives all paying NUFC fans the right to form whatever opinion they like on him. If he was the broker behind selling Milner (12m very good work aside) there was no one lined up. 

 And I really like what liitle I've seen of Xisco.

As for the players him and his team have brought in then time will tell.  I hope your right on Xisco.  I'm not wanting to judge him so early but he literally didn't look like a footballer at times on Saturday. I'm not keen at all on Spanish players at Newcastle.

Do Newcastle fans know Keegan only took the job because he was skint? sick of working in his? coffee shop in Scotland. Don't think its because he loves football and Newcastle for one minute.

LOL!

[Rooky9]

Someone willing to pay £250m for a start off & £20m a season - and you've driven him out for Keegan??? You lot are mental & if he bankrupts your club to get back what he can you've only the fans to blame.

2) While I think there was sense in Ashley's statement some people seem to have fallen for the big 240m figure.  Okay so that is the money he has in the put right now. But its not money he has donated to NUFC! Its in there as an investment and you can bet your life that he'll be getting all that back. The 20m figure for willing to to put in every year is interesting. We are one of the few clubs who were in the black so it would have been interesting as to how that would have gone. Once again however him putting in 20m a year isn't him being generous. The value of the club would have been rising along with it - if not more so if his model was so good.

Oh and there is the fact that about half of this was because he didn't do his due diligence (which I think he has now confirmed publically). He didn't really have that much of a choice in the extra 100m for the ground repayment that was due when the Halls left the club. The way to become a billionaire is blatantly to be a bit of a cowboy.

[mondatoo]

[X] I knew i should of not wasted my time with this thread.

[  ] Most of the comments on here are accurate

You came out with loads of stuff why wise it to blame, none of them were facts but based around prejudice and misconceptions. I dislike the little shit more then anyone but you have to wake up and smell the coffee sometimes.

I didn't come out with facts why wise was to blame.Shatner said he couldn't see why people up here didn't like him i suggested a few reasons why we don't they weren't ment to be taken as fact there an opinion of mine and others i've spoke to.Also the story about shearer being sacked was off nufc.com which is normally very accurate with what is on there but again this is information i read this morning and was in response to shearer being part of a setup for ashley clearly not going to happen.As a fan of Newcastle United i will give my opinion on stuff that relates to my team some won't agree with which is fair enough but some peoples perceptions ideas when it comes to newcastle are just plain wrong.Also do people seriously think Mike Ashley is going to lose out financially here as i don't the only people that will truly lose out are the fans as per usual.Ashley suggests he would put £20 million in the club per season is also bs,Is that a lot of money these days for a prem club no imo, but the fact is he didn't even spend that much.

[boldie]

Of course he meant to hurt him.  But he didn't mean to break his leg.

He was frustrated and swung out..... twice.

He got him and got sent off.  And if there were justice, he'd get a lengthy ban.

But his intention was just to kick the bloke.  He wasn't preplanning on breaking his leg.  That was just an unhappy consequence.

But since the FA ruled on Taylor, the actual damage done is irrelevant.  It's the premeditated intent that matters.  Guthrie intended to kick him.  Which he succeeded in doing.

And he got himself sent off for it.  With a 3 match ban coming his way.

He'll avoid any extended ban because he'll argue that he didn't intend to break his leg, it was just a over exuberant challenge, your honour.

And he'll get away with it.  Because Taylor did.

PS. Irony doesn't always translate in written form - sorry for any flaming that occurred.  It was a horror tackle.

Season long ban..at least IMO

[DaveShoelace]

So, who next then?

Will they go for Alan Shearer to "keep the fans onside" or someone who might know a bit about football...

Tell you what, how about Colin Calderwood? Wouldn't that be grand!

lmfao

I reckon Kevin Keegan ought to apply for the vacant managers job.

Lol, life imitates jokes, I said this a couple of weeks ago and now Keegan is the odds on fave to take the managers job at Newcastle.