On the verge of man-made life?

[rex008]

No proper scientist would ever say that there is 100% no god. Even Richard Dawkins would agree with me there. You can't prove a negative. You can't prove there is no teapot in orbit somewhere between Jupiter and Saturn, but I would say the chance of there not being one is 99.99999999999999999%, or thereabouts . Of course this example of scientific reasoning is then taken totally out of context by people with other agendas. Sigh.

Oh and Flood of Noah >>>>> Sodom & Gomorrah from a "God can be destructive" perspective...

[kinboshi]

I don't have the answer (no one does).  But god doesn't answer the question.

Like I say, I'm not trying to offend or convert anyone.  I'm not saying there is a god. 

But what I have never understood is how some people that believe in science can say categorically that there isn't .

I'd have thought that with increased knowledge there must be more openmindedness ( ? ) about any ridiculous answer as being potentially the right one.

I never said there isn't a god.  I just don't see why there should be or ANY evidence that there is one.

I'm not being closed-minded, exactly the opposite.  Show me a reason to think there is a god and I'll acknowledge there is a god.  Until then, I'll continue to go on thinking there isn't.

[AndrewT]

I don't have the answer (no one does).  But god doesn't answer the question.

Like I say, I'm not trying to offend or convert anyone.  I'm not saying there is a god. 

But what I have never understood is how some people that believe in science can say categorically that there isn't .

I'd have thought that with increased knowledge there must be more openmindedness ( ? ) about any ridiculous answer as being potentially the right one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_pink_unicorn

[bolt pp]

"no proper scientist would say 100% there isn't a god"

"i never said there isn't a god"

[ ] Haven't seen threads this this before

let me paraphrase the usual way in which the next 8 pages develop and then you can all go about your poker playing for the day:

"yeah but there probably is a god and that"

"yeah well why are people dying and stuff"?

"look in the bible and that, life ain't fair"

"yeah well look at this example from the bible that contradicts your point"

"yeah well look at this one that has no relevance"

"yeah well Scotland is crap"

"yeah well so is England"

GG thread

[thetank]

I don't have the answer (no one does).  But god doesn't answer the question.

Like I say, I'm not trying to offend or convert anyone.  I'm not saying there is a god. 

But what I have never understood is how some people that believe in science can say categorically that there isn't .

I'd have thought that with increased knowledge there must be more openmindedness ( ? ) about any ridiculous answer as being potentially the right one.

I never said there isn't a god.  I just don't see why there should be or ANY evidence that there is one.

I'm not being closed-minded, exactly the opposite.  Show me a reason to think there is a god and I'll acknowledge there is a god.  Until then, I'll continue to go on thinking there isn't.

This site will piss you off.

www.proofthatgodexists.org

[kinboshi]

I don't have the answer (no one does).  But god doesn't answer the question.

Like I say, I'm not trying to offend or convert anyone.  I'm not saying there is a god. 

But what I have never understood is how some people that believe in science can say categorically that there isn't .

I'd have thought that with increased knowledge there must be more openmindedness ( ? ) about any ridiculous answer as being potentially the right one.

I never said there isn't a god.  I just don't see why there should be or ANY evidence that there is one.

I'm not being closed-minded, exactly the opposite.  Show me a reason to think there is a god and I'll acknowledge there is a god.  Until then, I'll continue to go on thinking there isn't.

This site will piss you off.

www.proofthatgodexists.org

Hehe.

This sentence is false.

[thetank]

"yeah but there probably is a god and that"

"yeah well why are people dying and stuff"?

God mentions somewhere in his autobiography that he can't exist without faith, and faith can't exist alongside categorical proof.
See the Douglas Adams bit where God accidentally proves himself by creating the Babelfish, and in so doing, ceases to exist.

Anyway, if it turned out that Christian kids never got cancer, it wouldn't take long before people sussed this out. Religion would no longer become a choice, you have to go to church or your kids might die. No true faith exists anymore.

Anyway, my point is, I'm fed up off this nonsense that some Christians spout about disability and cancer and stuff being some sort of divine punishment for crimes commited against God 5 or 6 generations ago.

Why is there dying and shit, because there is.
Why doesn't god help, because taking sides would prove his existence.

Brings about another good question, what does God actually do?
Stephen Merchant suggests that he plays Sudoku. I think that's as good a guess as any.

Maybe he reads internet forums.

[bolt pp]

"yeah but there probably is a god and that"

"yeah well why are people dying and stuff"?

God mentions somewhere in his autobiography that he can't exist without faith, and faith can't exist alongside categorical proof.
See the Douglas Adams bit where God accidentally proves himself by creating the Babelfish, and in so doing, ceases to exist.

Anyway, if it turned out that Christian kids never got cancer, it wouldn't take long before people sussed this out. Religion would no longer become a choice, you have to go to church or your kids might die. No true faith exists anymore.

Anyway, my point is, I'm fed up off this nonsense that some Christians spout about disability and cancer and stuff being some sort of divine punishment for crimes commited against God 5 or 6 generations ago.

Why is there dying and shit, because there is.
Why doesn't god help, because taking sides would prove his existence.

Brings about another good question, what does God actually do?
Stephen Merchant suggests that he plays Sudoku. I think that's as good a guess as any.

Maybe he reads internet forums.

yeah but then God would know that you were just respecting him so that your kids didnt get cancer and not because he created the universe and stuff and i cant see him falling for that.

[thetank]

I kneel beside my bed every night and start dissing God. He can't do shit.

[bolt pp]

I kneel beside my bed every night and start dissing God. He can't do shit.

I'm not joking about this anymore, i can imagine at the pearly gates:

Bolt: "what fucking thread"?

Saint Peter or whoever: "Blondepoker, september 2008, it's all here"

Bolt: "ohhhhh, this is bollox man, i was fucking about"

sp: "that's not what god thinks"

Bolt: "can i talk to him then"?

sp: "whats your ticket number"?

Bolt: "2,4456,4333455,4445667"

sp: "then no"

Bolt: "what about if i get a doctors note"?

sp: "about what"

Bolt: "that i'm mentally ill and that"

sp: "your gonna need a case worker and it takes a while to get to the review stage"

Bolt: "what about when i went on that charity mission to south America to save kids and that"?

sp: "we havnt got that file yet"

bloke behind me in line: "can you hurry up please, ive got three wives in there and i want to get to the fit one before the other two clock me"

Bolt: "stop fucking trying to push in bruv, let me sort my shit out then you'll get your turn or it's all gonna kick off alright"!

sp: "Security"

Bolt: "that's how it is yeah? wait till some my pals die, im coming back and it's going off!! you dont even know who your fucking with"!!!
 
sp: "yeah yeah big man, see you then"

*gets dragged off by angel security*

[thetank]

Bolt: "that's how it is yeah? wait till some my pals die

 

[ShatnerPants]

I kneel beside my bed every night and start dissing God. He can't do shit.

Bolt: "that's how it is yeah? wait till some my pals die, im coming back and it's going off!! you dont even know who your fucking with"!!!
 
sp: "yeah yeah big man, see you then"

*gets dragged off by angel security*

I've read about the second coming.  I thought it meant something totally different . 

[ShatnerPants]

I don't have the answer (no one does).  But god doesn't answer the question.

Like I say, I'm not trying to offend or convert anyone.  I'm not saying there is a god. 

But what I have never understood is how some people that believe in science can say categorically that there isn't .

I'd have thought that with increased knowledge there must be more openmindedness ( ? ) about any ridiculous answer as being potentially the right one.

I never said there isn't a god.  I just don't see why there should be or ANY evidence that there is one.

I'm not being closed-minded, exactly the opposite.  Show me a reason to think there is a god and I'll acknowledge there is a god.  Until then, I'll continue to go on thinking there isn't.

But that in itself is a closed statement isn't it.  ?

Paraphrasing, you're saying ''I never said there isn't a god. But I continue to think there isn't one''.

Open minded would surely be something along the lines of

''I see absolutely no indication that a god exsists, although there is no positive proof that he doesn't, so it has to remain a doubtful posibility, at best''.

What little I've read of Dawkins implies that while he acknowledges a possibility of god, he puts it down to something like a 0.000001 % probability.   What I don't understand is what bits of science can give one that sort of confidence.

I'm not talking about religion or the bible, or anything specific.  I'm talking about that initial pre split second moment.  There was something there.  And that something did something.  Did it do it on it's own, or did something make it do it. 

I see it as a 50 / 50 possibility.  What swings it so it's 99.999 % one way ?

[kinboshi]

What's a 50/50 possibility? 

Do you believe in the invisible pink unicorn?  Or are you 50/50 on that as well?

[ShatnerPants]

What's a 50/50 possibility? 

Do you believe in the invisible pink unicorn?  Or are you 50/50 on that as well?

Which invisible pink unicorn ?

Bob, or Mable ?

Coz, obviously Bob doesn't exist.  He's just a figment of Mable's imagination.