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« on: September 18, 2008, 02:21:47 AM »

Rather than keep starting new threads, thought I would put all my stuff on this one

Had a chat with Poker League Champion Gerrard9 last night and with Pokerbcity Will Brewen Vegas Legend  118th WSOP

THE-CROW> Hi Darren

THE-CROW>  how long you bin playing poker
gerrard9> oh 3 years
THE-CROW> ok
THE-CROW> do you look like your avatar
THE-CROW> red hat an star
gerrard9> nah
THE-CROW> older or younger
gerrard9> how old you think
THE-CROW> not seen you,   about 25, I guess
gerrard9> 34
THE-CROW> nice 1
THE-CROW> do you play on other poker sites
gerrard9> big slicks
THE-CROW> ok
THE-CROW> do you multi table
gerrard9> playing it now
THE-CROW> how many tables at once
gerrard9> 6 at mo
gerrard9> mostly cash
THE-CROW> ok
THE-CROW> v good
THE-CROW> have you turned pro yet
THE-CROW> still got the day job ?
gerrard9> still work
THE-CROW> ok
THE-CROW> have you bin to Vegas yet
gerrard9> no next year
kimble76> is this an interview?
THE-CROW> yes for blonde poker is that OK
gerrard9> yeah

THE-CROW> do you prefere live or on line
gerrard9> prefer multi table

THE-CROW> nice hand
gerrard9> ty
gerrard9> going to play Skypoker tour

THE-CROW> next sky tour is in Birmingham
THE-CROW> bit far for you from Brighton
gerrard9> I will go to that 1
THE-CROW> Ok then See you there

(Pokerbcity is on the same table)
THE-CROW> ok
THE-CROW> Hi Will, any sponsors approached you yet after Vegas?
pokerbcity> sky is  putting me in top wsope 1500 event
THE-CROW> in London
pokerbcity> yeh
pokerbcity> this week
THE-CROW> good luck m8
pokerbcity> ty
THE-CROW> can I put this on the Blonde poker forum guys
THE-CROW> Ok then ?
pokerbcity> ye
THE-CROW> thanks m8
THE-CROW> Are you on Blonde poker Will
pokerbcity> been on it
pokerbcity> havnt signed up
THE-CROW> Ok
THE-CROW> Darren you Ok if i print your bit ?
gerrard9> yeah
THE-CROW> thanks m8


After the chat I looked at Gerrards tables and he was on 4 cash tables £1/£2
and playing the Sky Open

And able to chat and type to me

amazing
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 02:26:20 AM »

Ok here's an old one

Hellmouth's Animals

Hellmuth classifies poker players in 5 general catagories, only 4 of which most of us will ever get the chance to play against.  They are the mouse, jackal, elephant, lion and eagle.  Their poker characteristics are as follows:

The Mouse

The mouse is an ultra conservative player who plays very strict starting hand requirements (see Hellmuth's Top 10).  The mouse will bet, but rarely ever raises a bet or reraises.  The mouse almost never bluffs.  If a mouse actually does raise or re-raise, it probably means they have an almost unbeatable hand.  The mouse's weakness is that he or she is simply too predictable.  When the mouse starts to raise, good players typically fold their hands, and in the mouse loses out on some chips they may have won, had they not earned themselves such a stodgy reputation.  This character type is also referred to as a rock  For the record, mice tend to make more money than they lose, espeically at low limit loose games.  Their pots are not always the largest in the world, but they take down way more pots than they lose, due to their conservative play.

The Jackal

I have found jackals to be pretty common animals in low limit, online poker rooms.  This type of player plays alot of cards, and bets and raises with abandon.  He is the direct opposite of the mouse.  The jackal's chip stack often resembles a roller coaster ride, as it will climb when he has great cards, and then fall back to near nothing when he has a string of bad cards.  You can make alot of money off a player like this.  Do not ever be afraid to call a jackal, because since they play loose, you will catch them bluffing with trash often.  A jackal is destined to lose his money if he ventures far beyond 50 cent ante poker, where good players see him for the loose player that he is and take advantage of his weaknesses.

The Elephant

The elephant is what most poker players refer to as a “calling station.“  The elephant has loose starting hand requirements, and so he plays in alot of pots.  As a result, he ends up in alot of hands that he or she has no chance of winning.  The elephant is content to call his hand to the river, even when common sense tells him hes beaten.  This type of player does not lose all of his chips at once, since he generally prefers calling to raising, but over time, the elephant contributes most of his chip stack to the other players.  Hellmuth notes that there is no point in trying to bluff the elephant, but if you have good cards, you know he will pay you all the way to the river.  I have found from my experience, that this “animal“ is the predominant one found at online low limit tables.  Watch a few games, and you will notice the huge number of online players who play practically every hand, and call to the river with complete trash.  The elephant will beat you occasionally simply because he is willing to draw till the end.  On the whole though, this is yet another player who is easy to make money off of.

The Lion

The lion is rare in low limit games.  He has good starting hand requirements, but will occassionally take a calculated risk on cards not on his “list.“  The lion plays aggressive poker when he is ahead and folds when he is behind.  Occasionally the lion will bluff in an advantageous position, but his bluffs are rare enough that the other players must respect him.  The lion is an excellent poker player, and makes his living taking chips from the mouse, elephant and jackal.  A tight player who takes the occasional risk or bluff to keep from getting labeled a “rock“ would be a good example of a lion.

The Eagle

The eagle is a character that most of us will never reach or even play against.  The eagle represents the pinnacle of the poker world.  He or she has studied the game for years and is now in the upper ranks of the poker world.  Hellmuth considers an eagle to be one of the top 100 players in the world.  If you reach this status, the rest of us will be watching as you take down pots on one of the several televised poker events!

Conclusion:

So how can you as a poker player put these characterizations to use?  As I noted before, endless note taking can be tedious and even pointless if you do not keep them properly organized. The “animals“ offers a great way to organize how you think about the different players at your table.  Rather than saying “this player plays alot of pots...he called to the river with a pair of 7's...he never folds to a bluff...“ and so on and so forth, you can simply put “elephant“ in your notes about this player.

Amazing in its simplicity and effectiveness.  Granted, all of the players in the world will not each be perfect fits for one category.  However, this system offers a great place to start in organizing your thoughts about how each player plays and what strategies to use against them.  It takes hardly any time at all to jot down a characterization in a players notes, and the payoff when you see this player again can yield huge profits.
   
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 02:40:02 AM »

When ever I get to play on Sky, they always show me folding or getting low on chips.

They have never shown me when I have a good stack, Are they having a laugh
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2008, 02:44:57 AM »

Once I had Quads twice in 13 minutes

Poker Hand history for session 94166778 on 2008-07-05 23:56:38    

83317871     2008-07-06             00:29:11

   THE-CROW won 7520.00 with a Four

83320832     2008-07-06             00:42:05

    * THE-CROW won 12520.00 with a Four
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2008, 02:54:36 AM »

The Orient Express

I thought there was only one Orient Express that ran from Paris to Istanbul and then on to China

But Searching on line theres hundreds of 'em !!

There's even 2 in England that take passengers for a day trip through the Dales "very Oriental"

The Orient Express

Ever since 1883, when the Orient Express made its first journey from Paris to Istanbul,The Venice Simplon-Orient-Express is distinctive down to the smallest detail. The train is composed of original 1920s and 30s European carriages, lovingly restored.

There is a British Orient Express. A day trip aboard the British Pullman or Northern Belle will allow someone special to be transported back to the golden age of travel.

The British one is pulled by steam from Southampton and London Victoria
The British Pullman. Originally conceived as "Palaces on Wheels" by George Mortimer Pullman,  is an original 1920s and 30s masterpiece from the golden age of rail travel.

The Northern Belle is a steam that pulls restored 1930's carriages
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 02:57:39 AM »

Yes its much better to have your own thread......
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2008, 03:10:01 AM »

These are Crows favorite jokes

Where does Crow go shopping      Tescrows

What car  does Crow drive       Reliant Robin

Whats Crows favorite Film       Gladiator  (Russell Crowe)

Whats Crows favorite Indian Tribe    Crowmanchee

Wheres Crow go for his holidays   Cromer  Croatias too far

Why does Crow visit the Tower of London    To see the Crow'n Jewels

What rank was Crow in the RAF     Wing Commander

Whats Crows favorite drink       Crow'nemburg Lager

A Glaswegian crow lays scotch eggs

A crow in barbados lays fried eggs

A mad crow lays coggled eggs

A crow in a v hot bath lays poached eggs

A dead crow just lays
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2008, 03:21:40 AM »

What game do posh crows play with mallets?
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2008, 03:24:07 AM »

Rather than keep starting new threads, thought I would put all my stuff on this one




awesome idea imo
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 03:25:30 AM »

OK Did you know that The Crow has been on Facebook for nearly a year

Little Crow on the London network has links to many Crow sites including "The Little Crow Water ski team"

Crow is the club mascot and their 20 skier combos are legendary.

I'm also on My Space but thats only for private chats to Michelle Orpe

Im also in the Tony Kendall appreciation society
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2008, 03:28:28 AM »

Gotta love the back handed crow-mpliments.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2008, 03:34:13 AM »

I hope this isn't flooding
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2008, 03:35:27 AM »

If it is I'll stick to 6 tales a day
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 03:48:25 AM »

Some of these puns are so childish. You lot should crow up.
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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2008, 07:27:42 AM »

Rather than keep starting new threads, thought I would put all my stuff on this one

Had a chat with Poker League Champion Gerrard9 last night and with Pokerbcity Will Brewen Vegas Legend  118th WSOP

THE-CROW> Hi Darren

THE-CROW>  how long you bin playing poker
gerrard9> oh 3 years
THE-CROW> ok
THE-CROW> do you look like your avatar
THE-CROW> red hat an star
gerrard9> nah
THE-CROW> older or younger
gerrard9> how old you think
THE-CROW> not seen you,   about 25, I guess
gerrard9> 34
THE-CROW> nice 1
THE-CROW> do you play on other poker sites
gerrard9> big slicks
THE-CROW> ok
THE-CROW> do you multi table
gerrard9> playing it now
THE-CROW> how many tables at once
gerrard9> 6 at mo
gerrard9> mostly cash
THE-CROW> ok
THE-CROW> v good
THE-CROW> have you turned pro yet
THE-CROW> still got the day job ?
gerrard9> still work
THE-CROW> ok
THE-CROW> have you bin to Vegas yet
gerrard9> no next year
kimble76> is this an interview?
THE-CROW> yes for blonde poker is that OK
gerrard9> yeah

THE-CROW> do you prefere live or on line
gerrard9> prefer multi table

THE-CROW> nice hand
gerrard9> ty
gerrard9> going to play Skypoker tour

THE-CROW> next sky tour is in Birmingham
THE-CROW> bit far for you from Brighton
gerrard9> I will go to that 1
THE-CROW> Ok then See you there

(Pokerbcity is on the same table)
THE-CROW> ok
THE-CROW> Hi Will, any sponsors approached you yet after Vegas?
pokerbcity> sky is  putting me in top wsope 1500 event
THE-CROW> in London
pokerbcity> yeh
pokerbcity> this week
THE-CROW> good luck m8
pokerbcity> ty
THE-CROW> can I put this on the Blonde poker forum guys
THE-CROW> Ok then ?
pokerbcity> ye
THE-CROW> thanks m8
THE-CROW> Are you on Blonde poker Will
pokerbcity> been on it
pokerbcity> havnt signed up
THE-CROW> Ok
THE-CROW> Darren you Ok if i print your bit ?
gerrard9> yeah
THE-CROW> thanks m8


After the chat I looked at Gerrards tables and he was on 4 cash tables £1/£2
and playing the Sky Open

And able to chat and type to me

amazing

 

this is genius. Do Sky know ur doing interviews with their players in-game? Tikay might give you a job doing that if you p.m him.
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