Glasgow Poker Market

[lazaroonie]

Don't know who this information is best aimed at, but thought it worth sharing :

On monday night, with 55 players at CinCins in glasgow for the £20 tourney, the Riverboat had 66 players.

Clearly there is a market for something decent in the Glasgow poker world if two clubs less than a mile apart can attract over 100 players on a miserable monday night.

[Scottish Dave]

Don't know who this information is best aimed at, but thought it worth sharing :

On monday night, with 55 players at CinCins in glasgow for the £20 tourney, the Riverboat had 66 players.

Clearly there is a market for something decent in the Glasgow poker world if two clubs less than a mile apart can attract over 100 players on a miserable monday night.

hi mate, nice to meet you last monday BTW.

i think DC realises this and thats why he is getting involved in Cin Cin club, as for the river boat, well that type of poker aint poker to me, it bingo for people who cant play poker, with deep pockets.

Go on Mikky, have a go at me lol

[Rod Paradise]

2 totally different games as well. £5 rebuy frenzy at one, £20 single rebuy at the other.

I think there are some players who'll stick to one club, 1 style of tourney, then there'll be a few 'floaters' who will play both. So there's plenty of room for both card-rooms.

But like you say - the bodies are there (there were a lot of the Thurday night regulars didn't make it in on the Monday as well).

[johnlarsson]

there is a market

and i also think there is defo a market for single re-buy tounrys like the cinncs does..

ive played stanley no limit re-buys in first 2 hours and its like as you say playing bingo....

it was goods to finally find somwhere you can play what i also call real poker

[Ironside]

there is better value for the better player in the small rebuy comp
there is better play but less value in small freezeouts

if i wanted a good game of poker i would stick to the freezeout
but if i was trying to make a profit i would move to the rebuy


lucky for me that i am a hobby player and play for thegame so i would choose the freezeout
but if i was to turn semi pro i would always look for the better value you get in a rebuy

[Teacake]

At least a dozen of the 66 at the Boat had busted out of Cin Cin, you could see it coming a mile off. They were gambling like nothing on earth trying to build a stack early only to lose it then go to the Boat for bingo.

The amount of guys moaning that it was one rebuy was unreal but good for the rest of us as we picked them off one by one cos they were "bored"

Rods right both clubs have something to offer.

Iron surely a semi pro would be looking to play cash games rather than rebuys?

[thetank]

I think a 3max re-buy structure would be good. Not too bingo, and it'll build your prize pool a bit more.
Perhaps that's the happy medium that would keep everyone happy.

The odd £100 freezeout would bring folk in from all over scotland if marketed correctly. Dundee did this and got loads of players most of whom were keen to know when the next one would be.

For those whose purse strings can't stretch to that a £15 1 re-buy super-sat might be an idea.

[Ironside]

teacake 3 types of pro's

cash game pro
tourny pro
and mixed pro

i never touch cash game so if i decided that poker was no longer a hobby and that i needed to show profit i would have to cut down on last minute flights expensive hotels and look for value tournys which would include rebuys (which i avoid)

[mikkyT]

Don't know who this information is best aimed at, but thought it worth sharing :

On monday night, with 55 players at CinCins in glasgow for the £20 tourney, the Riverboat had 66 players.

Clearly there is a market for something decent in the Glasgow poker world if two clubs less than a mile apart can attract over 100 players on a miserable monday night.

hi mate, nice to meet you last monday BTW.

i think DC realises this and thats why he is getting involved in Cin Cin club, as for the river boat, well that type of poker aint poker to me, it bingo for people who cant play poker, with deep pockets.

Say that to the guy who is over £600 quid richer for his entry fee of £5, no re-buys and no top-ups (he was on Rhowenas table and went out when his poket kings where cracked by pocket and then he went to the boat). The fact remains that, whilst having a large amount of tournament chips to start with encourages good solid poker, people will still play in a maniac fashion, and it works for them. Are you telling me that hyper aggressive players like Gus Hansen and Doyle Brunson have not been successful in their tournament careers?

Who is to say that your version of conservative, selectively aggressive style of poker is the correct defacto style? Likewise, just because you might be playing conservatively because you feel the conditions of the tournament and table are right for that style, doesn't mean that someone else is wrong to be playing differently.

£5 gets you 1000 chips. Thats 10 big blinds. The players that are 'all-in' merchants are playing to a strategy. That is to amass chips on their table. They will not move from that table until the re-buy period finishes. They want as many buy-ins at that table as possible (hopefully not their own) so as to regain those chips later on either before or after the re-buy period finishes through being the better player. And they will do this with a fair amount of ease, given the usual standard of fish that surround them.

They do this week in, week out with consistent money finishes. Even £40-£50 pounds is a tidy investment for a share of £2000-£3000.

You know my feelings on the subject, and you also know that I happen to agree in principle. But remarks like "for people who can't play poker" clearly show your ignorance on the subject (not meant offensively, just an observation...).

Go on Mikky, have a go at me lol

I don't need to. You did it yourself!

[thetank]

  re-buy tournaments require different strategy, they are still poker, not bingo, just a different type.

Don't complain, adjust!

[mikkyT]

I call it bingo myself. The £5 game anyway. The price is so low that it encourages all and sundry to re-buy, because its free, right!?  >:? Its meant in jest, at least when I say it

An adendum. A bad player will go whereever there is a game. A typically good player will prefer freezeouts. A top player on a budget will prefer the re-buy.

[mikkyT]

Adendum to my adendum. Why do I personally play at both? Well, I can honestly say that I believe without the cincinatti 1 re-buy Thursday game, I would have been entering the Stanley £250 freezeout like a rabbit caught between the headlights. Until Cincins, there just hasn't been anywhere for me to play that format of tournament. I don't count online.

I continue to play in the tournaments that offer me the most bang for my buck. Rebuy with only 15-20 players, for example, is a no no. Riverboat offers me big pots. Cincins offers me people who I would class as friends and the chance to increase my experience in a format that is most like that used in many major/main events on the EPT calendar. Also, although the standard of play is generally better than the £5 game accross the road, I know I will avoid most of the local professional gamblers, as they will be in the tournament with the bigger pot.

[mikkyT]

Don't know who this information is best aimed at, but thought it worth sharing :

On monday night, with 55 players at CinCins in glasgow for the £20 tourney, the Riverboat had 66 players.

Clearly there is a market for something decent in the Glasgow poker world if two clubs less than a mile apart can attract over 100 players on a miserable monday night.

There are also a regular bunch who will be attending Wabash almost exclusively. In all I'd say the regular number of poker players in Glasgow is 200+

[lazaroonie]

My post was not actualy intended to start a debate on what is the better version of poker, merely to point out that in their various guises, there are more than enough players out there to make a club like this viable.

In addition to these two venues, I know of two pubs in the lanarkshire area who also, on a monday night average over 50 players per tournament.

It is definitely on the up. I dont think we have reached the critical mass yet.

I would certainly love to play more at CinCins, the one thing I would love to see is more "knowledge" about tournaments - eg the first day I joined (a thursday night), I couldnt stay to play, but there was a big tournament about to start. I picked up the card at the door which had details of tournaments on seven days a week. I came back the next night to find I was the only person there. I was told "just phone up on the night to see what is on that night", but I need to have a bit more planning than that.

[mikkyT]

My post was not actualy intended to start a debate on what is the better version of poker, merely to point out that in their various guises, there are more than enough players out there to make a club like this viable.

In addition to these two venues, I know of two pubs in the lanarkshire area who also, on a monday night average over 50 players per tournament.

It is definitely on the up. I dont think we have reached the critical mass yet.

I would certainly love to play more at CinCins, the one thing I would love to see is more "knowledge" about tournaments - eg the first day I joined (a thursday night), I couldnt stay to play, but there was a big tournament about to start. I picked up the card at the door which had details of tournaments on seven days a week. I came back the next night to find I was the only person there. I was told "just phone up on the night to see what is on that night", but I need to have a bit more planning than that.

Thursdays is the big night (for now). Not sure what DC has planned, but stick with the Thursday being the tournament night until you hear different.