I hate jacks

[Charlie44]

£10 rebuy tourney after buy in period completed. About 30 left in. BB - 400. Average chips - 6k.

8 players on table.

UTG - Stack 7k Not long joined the table I know nothing about.

Me - UTG +2 - 7.5k.    Generally seen as playing tight - mostly big hands at showdown.

Button - 5k.  Agressive post flop. Tends to play bluffs in position - probably too many.

UTG Bets 1.2k

I look down at JJ - I call.

Button calls.

All others folded.

Flop QQ8 ( 2hearts)

BB checks . What now ?

Better to go all in pre flop ?


 

[TazDevil]

shove pre cos not enough chips after flop to fold anyway so not much fold equity

good enough flop for JJ and also good place for all in

[Charlie44]

shove pre cos not enough chips after flop to fold anyway so not much fold equity


Thanks Taz. After calling flop I have 6.3k - 15 BBs still average chips - isn't that plenty to continue playing reasonably normally and with plenty of fold equity ?

[Bongo]

I would ship my chips in preflop.

Having called I would be all in on this flop.

[TazDevil]

you start hand with like 15 bb's which is all in or fold mode most of the time anyway but with a raise before you, looking down at  is almost an eastenders act then all in or an insta all in over top of a raise pre hoping to put pressure back onto your opponent and awaiting his sik outdraw

[MC]

What were the blinds?

You should definitely be raising preflop here.

You now have an un-get-away-able-from flop, and if the big blind has QT, then see above!

[TazDevil]

What were the blinds?

You should definitely be raising preflop here.

You now have an un-get-away-able-from flop, and if the big blind has Q3, then see above!

first post

£10 rebuy tourney after buy in period completed. About 30 left in. BB - 400. Average chips - 6k.

[MC]

Would have noticed if it said 200/400

Therefore shoving preflop is over the top....just a nice standard raise would do the trick

[Bongo]

We have 7.5k and it's been raised to 1200 before us...

Surely time to shove?

[MC]

We have 7.5k and it's been raised to 1200 before us...

Surely time to shove?

I really need to read these things more closely. I didn't realise it had been open raised.

Shove shove shove!

[TazDevil]

We have 7.5k and it's been raised to 1200 before us...

Surely time to shove?

I really need to read these things more closely. I didn't realise it had been open raised.

Shove shove shove!

it was over the top a minute ago, no wait im sure u ment GET IT ALL IN OVER THE TOP

[AlexMartin]

flat calling pre is terrible.

[MC]

it was over the top a minute ago, no wait im sure u ment GET IT ALL IN OVER THE TOP

Shoving pre as an open raise would have been over the top...Shoving to a raise certainly isn't...

[Charlie44]

flat calling pre is terrible.

 I hear what your saying Alex and you're probably right. With such a short stack I would not normally flat call here.

The 3 reasons I did was because :

I did not know the UTG player. To me raising UTG, with 7 players behind you,  with 1/6 of your stack for a typically solid player would normally mean a very good hand AJ+, TT +. Here I'm dominating AJ and TT, but loosing badly to AA - QQ. It's possible I suppose by going all in I might have made him fold AQ and have some fold equity there, but hes certainly not folding any other premium hands.

I was comfortable playing at the table and whilst the stacks were getting relatively low, generally I'd rather take my chances elsewhere than gamble on what could well be a coin flip.

I had position on UTG player after flop.

I did even consider folding here but couldn't make myself do it !

[Bongo]

What is your plan for the flop then?