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[Heid]

Kevin Smith? Hmm ... someone must have taken George into a corner and beaten some sense into him!

Dear god I hope they don't make it really good, I can't go all foamer over SW to the same level again!

Does anyone know any details yet? Is it going to be New Republic or Old Republic?

I'm New Republic kinda gal myself

Heid
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[The Baron]

Really dont know...

I know the EU stuff is what all the SW geeks want to be made but Lucas seems bent on going more old school and back to the past ie the stuff he himself has written.

There was also rumour of him doing a final film. He wanted it set 300yrs before TPM based totally around yoda! Man if I see that I could die happy.

[Heid]

Really dont know...

I know the EU stuff is what all the SW geeks want to be made but Lucas seems bent on going more old school and back to the past ie the stuff he himself has written.

There was also rumour of him doing a final film. He wanted it set 300yrs before TPM based totally around yoda! Man if I see that I could die happy.

I do like the EU stuff though!

Now a Yoda film would be very cool, really really cool.

I need to go and buy ROTS tomorrow now, don't I? <sigh>

[The Baron]

Really dont know...

I know the EU stuff is what all the SW geeks want to be made but Lucas seems bent on going more old school and back to the past ie the stuff he himself has written.

There was also rumour of him doing a final film. He wanted it set 300yrs before TPM based totally around yoda! Man if I see that I could die happy.

I do like the EU stuff though!

Now a Yoda film would be very cool, really really cool.

I need to go and buy ROTS tomorrow now, don't I? <sigh>

Yes you do!

(and if you're a gamer play Knights of the Old Republic I and II - best RPG's ever!)

[Heid]

Really dont know...

I know the EU stuff is what all the SW geeks want to be made but Lucas seems bent on going more old school and back to the past ie the stuff he himself has written.

There was also rumour of him doing a final film. He wanted it set 300yrs before TPM based totally around yoda! Man if I see that I could die happy.

I do like the EU stuff though!

Now a Yoda film would be very cool, really really cool.

I need to go and buy ROTS tomorrow now, don't I? <sigh>

Yes you do!

(and if you're a gamer play Knights of the Old Republic I and II - best RPG's ever!)

I managed to wean meself of em <g>

I'll get it tomorrow

Deary me, this could be dangerous

[Div]

I'm sorry but Celtic and Rangers are only a step up from very, very few EPL clubs. Harsh but true.

If it's true you should have plenty proof.

Man Utd beating Rangers twice recently in Europe sounds like good proof.
Celtic beating Liverpool doesn't.
Celtic beating Blackburn doesn't.
Rangers beating Leeds doesn't.

I know that last one is going back a while. So for something more recent, what's Spurs most recent result against Celtic? (Clue: Hoddle was in charge)

[The Baron]

I'm sorry but Celtic and Rangers are only a step up from very, very few EPL clubs. Harsh but true.

If it's true you should have plenty proof.

Man Utd beating Rangers twice recently in Europe sounds like good proof.
Celtic beating Liverpool doesn't.
Celtic beating Blackburn doesn't.
Rangers beating Leeds doesn't.

I know that last one is going back a while. So for something more recent, what's Spurs most recent result against Celtic? (Clue: Hoddle was in charge)

The proof is that the best Scottish players move here while the past it or average English players go the other way.

Whilst these one off results are great reading can they really be taken seriously? I don't think so.

The major scottish teams really struggle in Europe (except the odd Uefa Cup run) and if they played in England I doubt either Glawgow team would make Champions League qualification.

However even the 5th best team in England can become European Champions. The best teams in Scotland don't even stand a chance.

[Div]

The proof is that the best Scottish players move here while the past it or average English players go the other way.

So results are less important than players?

On that basis the EPL is finished. Since Chelsea can afford to buy more good players than anyone else.

[The Baron]

The proof is that the best Scottish players move here while the past it or average English players go the other way.

So results are less important than players?

On that basis the EPL is finished. Since Chelsea can afford to buy more good players than anyone else.

Ok results....

When was the last time a Scottish club made it through to the knockout stages of the Champions League?

(Not sure if I've mentioned it before but England's 5th best club won it last year!)

[Div]

Ok results....

When was the last time a Scottish club made it through to the knockout stages of the Champions League?

(Not sure if I've mentioned it before but England's 5th best club won it last year!)

So you want to compare Scotland to England by ignoring results against each other, but including results in competition against other teams?

By that measure Celtic are good enough to reach the Champions League final, since they gave Porto a much tougher game in the UEFA Final than Monaco managed in the Champions League final.

[The Baron]

Ok results....

When was the last time a Scottish club made it through to the knockout stages of the Champions League?

(Not sure if I've mentioned it before but England's 5th best club won it last year!)

So you want to compare Scotland to England by ignoring results against each other, but including results in competition against other teams?

By that measure Celtic are good enough to reach the Champions League final, since they gave Porto a much tougher game in the UEFA Final than Monaco managed in the Champions League final.

One off results don't concern me. Otherwise I'd just list every one off result from an English club over the years and I'd be here all night. I think looking at consistent results in Europe (the only place where both play) is a much better measure. How far do English clubs get Vs how far do Scottish clubs get? - I think we both know the answers there!

Celtic aren't good enough to get out of a Champions League GROUP. The only reason they made the Uefa Cup final is because it was exactly that - the Uefa Cup and not the Champions League!! They may have given Porto a better game than Monaco but the fact is Monaco have reached a Champions League final - Celtic haven't even gotten close.

[Teacake]

Think your missing the point Baron

Its the league we play in that holds us back not the club itself. We cant & never will fulfill our potential whilst playing in the SPL, thats not goin to change any time soon so we just have to get on with it, meanwhile we are not competing on a level playing field.

What should be a major concern to the EPL is the next Sky deal. Its not gonna come even close to the present one (unless England win the WC) & a lot of clubs are goin to be hit in the pocket big time.

[Nem]

Think your missing the point Baron

Its the league we play in that holds us back not the club itself. We cant & never will fulfill our potential whilst playing in the SPL, thats not goin to change any time soon so we just have to get on with it, meanwhile we are not competing on a level playing field.

What should be a major concern to the EPL is the next Sky deal. Its not gonna come even close to the present one (unless England win the WC) & a lot of clubs are goin to be hit in the pocket big time.

You're  just clutching at straws. When Spurs were owned by Alan Sugar, I use to always try and argue with the Arsenal fans. I use to try and say,"Yeah but we have Ruel Fox, Chris Armstrong etc..." when they used to say we have 4 world cup winners, Marc Overmars and we won the double. I was clutching at straws, just trying to save face for my former great club, just like Celtic. But the reality of it is this, Chris Sutton cost Chelsea £10,000,000. He scored 1 goal for Chelsea out of 33 stars and then they sold him to Celtic (LOL) His first season playing for Celtic he scored 14 times out of 36.

Your league is just rubbish!

Yes, you have a big ground,very very strong fanactical support but the big 6 EPL teams will all have bigger grounds than Celtic within 10 years, all the EPL teams are growing bigger and bigger, whilst Celtic are just where they were. They've (Celtic) always had a big ground 50-60k each week, even 15 years ago you were still having 57,000.  as for "if we get into the EPL" well, if my Mum had a cock, she could be my Dad! You're simply not going to get into the greatest league in the world becuase you're are Scottish, not English. The Old Firm had more chance getting into the English top division 20 years ago when there was no money in football and devolution was unheard of. 

[The Baron]

Think your missing the point Baron

Its the league we play in that holds us back not the club itself. We cant & never will fulfill our potential whilst playing in the SPL, thats not goin to change any time soon so we just have to get on with it, meanwhile we are not competing on a level playing field.

What should be a major concern to the EPL is the next Sky deal. Its not gonna come even close to the present one (unless England win the WC) & a lot of clubs are goin to be hit in the pocket big time.

Agreed to some extent. As no one channel can buy all 6 packages at the next TV rights sale I think revenue will drop. No two ways about it. However on the world stage English football is still booming. Add to this the fact the the EPL teams are the biggest contributors to Champions League revenue (fact - Doilette 2005) then all I can see is a bright future for English football.

The only point I was responding to was the one about EPL teams being a step down from the SPL's big two - a statement no one in their right mind can agree with.

[Rod Paradise]

You're  just clutching at straws. When Spurs were owned by Alan Sugar, I use to always try and argue with the Arsenal fans. I use to try and say,"Yeah but we have Ruel Fox, Chris Armstrong etc..." when they used to say we have 4 world cup winners, Marc Overmars and we won the double. I was clutching at straws, just trying to save face for my former great club, just like Celtic. But the reality of it is this, Chris Sutton cost Chelsea £10,000,000. He scored 1 goal for Chelsea out of 33 stars and then they sold him to Celtic (LOL) His first season playing for Celtic he scored 14 times out of 36.

As they say, there's lies, damned lies & statistics. In 9 years in England Sutton scored 2 European goals. He's scored 16 in 5 years at Celtic (including against Blackburn & Barcelona).

Your judging a great striker on 1 bad year in a team who's style didn't suit him. What about when he was partnering Shearer & ripping up the EPL?