bbc sports personality & x factor

[boldie]

He wouldn't have won it in a Toyota, Honda, Super Aguru (?) or any other car other than  McLaren or possibly with Ferrari.    He's obviously always been top notch though to get a drive in a first class team.  I bet Coultard would have killed for a drive like that in the last few year.

IMO, and it is just imo, F1 shouldn't really count as so much of it isn't down to the individual involved, but I know lots will argue against that.

So a footie player should also never win SPOTY?..or anyone playing a team sport?...doesn't make an awful lot of sense to me mate.

[mondatoo]

He wouldn't have won it in a Toyota, Honda, Super Aguru (?) or any other car other than  McLaren or possibly with Ferrari.    He's obviously always been top notch though to get a drive in a first class team.  I bet Coultard would have killed for a drive like that in the last few year.

IMO, and it is just imo, F1 shouldn't really count as so much of it isn't down to the individual involved, but I know lots will argue against that.

Not one person in f1 now whoever was in f1 ever could win it in them cars some not sure what that proves.He is in that car cause he deserves to be,he is already 10x better than what coulthard was.Football is dominated by the big 4 cause they have the most money but the results aren't just down to the individual since how many games do refs have a huge impact on ?

Seriously the gap that britain had in the cycling ahead of every single other time was huge mclaren are still 2nd best to ferrari and bmw and renault (due to alonso) we're competitive

[Graham C]

Not if  he runs about on robot legs and is sent instructions on when to take a drink, or when others are doing a bit better than him

I'm not anti Lewis, I just don't think his achievement was that great in the grand scheme of sporting achievements this year that's all

[Somerled]

Hoy dominated a nothing event...Adlington's achiement was right up there though IMO....I would be happy enough if she wins it.

How can cycling be a "nothing event" and women's distance swimming not be? I don't take any particular interest in either but I'm willing to guess that men's cycling is a lot more competitive than women's swimming.

What Hoy did was win 3 gold medals at a single olympics which no-one from the UK has ever achieved. This after winning another gold at Athens and then having his event taken away from him. So if it's to be an Olympian it should be him. Comparing his achievement to Hamilton's is almost impossible. For me, 1st Hoy, 2nd Hamilton, 3rd Adlington.

At least it's been a better year for sport than the last couple.

[Maxriddles]

A few of you picked up on what I said about Hamilton leaving the UK, that was not my main reason that he should not be Sports Personality of the year, I just had a personal gripe over the speed of his departure. The main reason he shouldn't be sports personality of the year is that I firmly believe his sporting achievement is lesser than those of Chris Hoy or Rebecca Adlington, and also that I believe F1 to be a pretty sorry excuse for a sport. 

[boldie]

Hoy dominated a nothing event...Adlington's achiement was right up there though IMO....I would be happy enough if she wins it.

How can cycling be a "nothing event" and women's distance swimming not be? I don't take any particular interest in either but I'm willing to guess that men's cycling is a lot more competitive than women's swimming.

What Hoy did was win 3 gold medals at a single olympics which no-one from the UK has ever achieved. This after winning another gold at Athens and then having his event taken away from him. So if it's to be an Olympian it should be him. Comparing his achievement to Hamilton's is almost impossible. For me, 1st Hoy, 2nd Hamilton, 3rd Adlington.

At least it's been a better year for sport than the last couple.

True..Brittain has had an amazing year...Olympics were good, F1 Worldchamp and ManU/Chelski CL final.

[rossfourfive]

Hoy dominated a nothing event...Adlington's achiement was right up there though IMO....I would be happy enough if she wins it.

How can cycling be a "nothing event" and women's distance swimming not be? I don't take any particular interest in either but I'm willing to guess that men's cycling is a lot more competitive than women's swimming.

What Hoy did was win 3 gold medals at a single olympics which no-one from the UK has ever achieved. This after winning another gold at Athens and then having his event taken away from him. So if it's to be an Olympian it should be him. Comparing his achievement to Hamilton's is almost impossible. For me, 1st Hoy, 2nd Hamilton, 3rd Adlington.

At least it's been a better year for sport than the last couple.

All of that +1

Hoy for me.

[bigalhx1]

think your all missing the point of this Alexandra Burke is now 8/15 and still a steel it will pay for this and next christmas

[Somerled]

think your all missing the point of this Alexandra Burke is now 8/15 and still a steel it will pay for this and next christmas

Nah not missing the point. I just can't abide the X Factor & it's ilk. Even if there is money to be made from it.

[AndrewT]

think your all missing the point of this Alexandra Burke is now 8/15 and still a steel it will pay for this and next christmas

You're still relying on the public to vote a black girl ahead of a 16 year old blonde boy who burst into tears when the first girl ever to touch his winkie got voted off - which probably isn't an 8/15 shot.

[Colchester Kev]

think your all missing the point of this Alexandra Burke is now 8/15 and still a steel it will pay for this and next christmas

You're still relying on the public to vote a black girl ahead of a 16 year old blonde boy who burst into tears when the first girl ever to touch his winkie got voted off - which probably isn't an 8/15 shot.

PMFSL

[boldie]

think your all missing the point of this Alexandra Burke is now 8/15 and still a steel it will pay for this and next christmas

You're still relying on the public to vote a black girl ahead of a 16 year old blonde boy who burst into tears when the first girl ever to touch his winkie got voted off - which probably isn't an 8/15 shot.

[Josedinho]

In an olympic year i reckon any olympian that does really well should win. Lewis can win the world title every year but Hoy has to peak during a one month period that he has trained 4 years for.
Hoy to win please.

[fatshaft]

I'm a bit surprised Chris Hoy is so far out of the reckoning at 4/1, three golds at the one Olympics, how many long until another British athlete repeats that?

he's Scottish, almost no chance of winning

[fatshaft]

lol@ not voting for Hamilton because he moved somewhere else.

His achievement is obviously stunning, as is Adlington's...but Hamilton should win IMO...I am a bit surprised by people jumping on Hamilton in this country...the kid deliveres..end off.

Hamilton will win, but he certainly shouldn't win. Hoy and Addlington by any measure have had a much bigger year, as has Cavendish who if the Beeb covered the TDF would be in the running too.