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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2008, 06:51:26 PM » |
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It was a sick pot and very unlucky, i would be 36k probs.
For what its worth a few people said you were playing really really good and i am loving your 1 pair value shoves and ropey value bets.
Brighton in Jan?
Thanks Flushy- you've made me feel better- yeah I felt I was playing well- obv couldn't put him on the J4. Probably me done on the tours for a while tbh- can't continue to justify the cost! Will be trying to qualify for them though!!! Staking board ftw! |
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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2008, 06:57:16 PM » |
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lol- will give it a go perhaps  Wouldn't want to miss out on playing you on your home turf. Have you posted that sick hand from the 4 card omaha yet??? |
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2008, 07:29:20 PM » |
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2008, 08:30:11 PM » |
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yeah, maybe bet a little more on flop to make river shove 3/4 pot opposed to looking stronger as full pot. vul sick |
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2008, 01:03:33 AM » |
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yeah, maybe bet a little more on flop to make river shove 3/4 pot opposed to looking stronger as full pot. vul sick Yeah i prefer 3/4 river shove hence 36k so probs best to bet more on turn |
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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2008, 11:45:38 AM » |
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Is it sometimes ok to leave some value on the table to preserve your tournament life???
Should you avoid value betting the river in case you got unlucky? If the answer is yes when would you ever value bet??
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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2008, 12:45:18 PM » |
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Is it sometimes ok to leave some value on the table to preserve your tournament life???
Should you avoid value betting the river in case you got unlucky? If the answer is yes when would you ever value bet??
Not unlucky- the reason I was asking the question were due to the blinds. If i check I have 60k at blinds 800/1600 with an above average stack. I was asking in terms of tournament position rather than long term EV. Like i said in the OP- I am trying really hard not be results orientated but in such a big tourney (for me anyway) it's hard not to be. I was after some reassurance that I played the hand correctly and the overwhelming consensus is I did. |
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« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2008, 01:45:19 PM » |
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Is it sometimes ok to leave some value on the table to preserve your tournament life???
Should you avoid value betting the river in case you got unlucky? If the answer is yes when would you ever value bet??
Not unlucky- the reason I was asking the question were due to the blinds. If i check I have 60k at blinds 800/1600 with an above average stack. I was asking in terms of tournament position rather than long term EV. Like i said in the OP- I am trying really hard not be results orientated but in such a big tourney (for me anyway) it's hard not to be. I was after some reassurance that I played the hand correctly and the overwhelming consensus is I did. I think you absolutely played the hand correctly. I think it is very very easy to check behind your oppo when you don't have to bet. But I also think what seperates good players from ordinary players is the ability to get that value anyway. A very common tournament mistake imo is avoiding risk because you think you have enough chips to do so. But with tournaments if you don't have all the chips you never really have enough chips to avoid playing well imo. I would readily forget the ridic result and take heart from the fact that even in a tournament that you consider to be big you could play normally and value bet the river. Good. |
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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2008, 01:37:06 PM » |
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Glad we came to the same thoughts champ :-) Can have a chat about it tonight at the game, bring the nose |
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2008, 01:53:54 PM » |
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It was a sick pot and very unlucky, i would be 36k probs.
For what its worth a few people said you were playing really really good and i am loving your 1 pair value shoves and ropey value bets.
Brighton in Jan?
I don't get this bet. Is the idea to draw him in or to give yourself a chance to pass if he comes over the top with a hand that is obv. beating us? If he's calling 36k he's probably calling 57k so why not just jam it in unless the idea is to pass to a shove? |
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« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2008, 04:47:17 PM » |
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If he's calling 36k he's probably calling 57k so why not just jam it in unless the idea is to pass to a shove?
36 just looks so much weaker, i think he might pass a J for a shove but call for 36 so i bet 36 |
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« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2008, 07:45:13 PM » |
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Where did the dude finish??
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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2008, 12:01:57 AM » |
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4th for 20k
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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2008, 08:50:47 AM » |
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It was a sick pot and very unlucky, i would be 36k probs.
For what its worth a few people said you were playing really really good and i am loving your 1 pair value shoves and ropey value bets.
Brighton in Jan?
I don't get this bet. Is the idea to draw him in or to give yourself a chance to pass if he comes over the top with a hand that is obv. beating us? If he's calling 36k he's probably calling 57k so why not just jam it in unless the idea is to pass to a shove? pot sized bets look much more like nuts/air. 2/3 river bets look more standard and we want to get stacks in. betting more on the flop/turn facilitates a smaller river bet. We aint ever folding this hand, we are trying to get him trapped with a tp type hand and commit him earlier. Once he gets offered 2.5-1 on the river he aint folding and it lets us get full value. |
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