Flopped set OOP

[TheChipPrince]

You played it the riskier way to try and get the max return, nothing wrong with that I dont think.

If 75% of the cards fall on the turn (any non-club) you get a big pay day.  As it turns out K9 is getting it anyway, so there wasnt the need to play not get it in on the flop, of course we dont know that.

[T_Mar]

You played it the riskier way to try and get the max return, nothing wrong with that I dont think.

If 75% of the cards fall on the turn (any non-club) you get a big pay day.  As it turns out K9 is getting it anyway, so there wasnt the need to play not get it in on the flop, of course we dont know that.

Only way to get max return, is to shove .. player with FD is only putting more chips in if he actually hits his flush..  UTG+1 is commited so his chips should be going in regardless..... shoving gives you the chance to get the all the chips in as strong fav and potentially near triple up

[jakally]

 I preferred the way I played it as I thought it was the best way of getting the chips off the old fella.

Trying to work out lines to get chips from 2 opponents in the same hand sounds a very complicated business.
Your line would be easier to justify heads up I think.

Personally I shove the flop.

If it had been a smaller tourney would you have played it differently?

[MANTIS01]

Because the pot is bigger than your remaining stack I don't see the need to get fancy and smooth call this heavy action. Your theory that calling will put you in a better position to get all the chips is very debateable. You are the pre-flop UTG raiser from a much talked about super-nit image, you bet the flop, and you don't go away after raise-call from the players behind! This strategy will just serve to make you look massive imo....so it'll be pretty hard to generate any action from here, action that couldn't have been generated on the flop anyway. At least if you push the flop your oppos can put you on clubs and call you with worse. How can that worse hand think he's ahead when you smooth call all that action? Also if you are up against a fd you are more likely to generate action on the flop than on a blank turn.

It's very easy for that guy to say he would call on the flop with his poxy 10 high fd if the chips went in....and the club has come. Bet his hand would have looked different at the time. If you put him on a fd and the pot is bigger than your stack then why call and try and get him on a blank turn? Deffo push for me.

[TheWhisper]

Looking at the hands that called your preflop raise I don't have a problem with the size of it. Any less and most of the table would have come along for the ride

[boldie]

Looking at the hands that called your preflop raise I don't have a problem with the size of it. Any less and most of the table would have come along for the ride

and the problem with that would be? You have pocket threes..no set, no bet and all that. I like to see as many people as possible in the hand If I hit my set.

Oh and shove the flop Kin, you got too clever by half on this one.

[TheChipPrince]

You played it the riskier way to try and get the max return, nothing wrong with that I dont think.

If 75% of the cards fall on the turn (any non-club) you get a big pay day.  As it turns out K9 is getting it anyway, so there wasnt the need to play not get it in on the flop, of course we dont know that.

Only way to get max return, is to shove .. player with FD is only putting more chips in if he actually hits his flush..  UTG+1 is commited so his chips should be going in regardless..... shoving gives you the chance to get the all the chips in as strong fav and potentially near triple up

It easy to answer it that way now we know there cards!!!  Flatting it gets us money off hands which arent as good as those that have shown up, AK for example...

[MANTIS01]

You played it the riskier way to try and get the max return, nothing wrong with that I dont think.

If 75% of the cards fall on the turn (any non-club) you get a big pay day.  As it turns out K9 is getting it anyway, so there wasnt the need to play not get it in on the flop, of course we dont know that.

Only way to get max return, is to shove .. player with FD is only putting more chips in if he actually hits his flush..  UTG+1 is commited so his chips should be going in regardless..... shoving gives you the chance to get the all the chips in as strong fav and potentially near triple up

It easy to answer it that way now we know there cards!!!  Flatting it gets us money off hands which arent as good as those that have shown up, AK for example...

What turn card would convince A-K to put all his money in, money he wouldn't have put in on the flop anyway? A club on the turn only serves to kill your A-K action....and if he's happy shipping a blank turn he's happy shipping the flop. The stacks are much too shallow to be getting cute imo.

[TheChipPrince]

The guy who raises to 3k, I would put on AK a lot of the time, he's shipping it in on any turn card.  Agree that when the other tags along we should probably get it in.