Did Anyone See the Colin Stagg story on BBC1?

[The Camel]

A truly shocking story of how an innocent man could get fitted up for a murder by the police who decided he was guilty without any evidence except for the fact he was a bit of loner with oddball beliefs.

A few things that came to mind after watching this programme:

1. The tabloid press are scum. To print Staggs picture next to the headline "No Girl is Safe" AFTER he was found not guilty was totally reprehensible.

2. Who are these people who turn up at trials to boo and shout catcalls at defendants in high profile cases? Have they really got nothing better to do with their miserable lives?

3. How long is going to take before defendants are given anonymity before a trial? The reporting of the Nickell case led the public to believe Stagg was guilty before the trial even began. Look at the footballers who have been arrested but not charged with rape. Everyone knows them and their names have been tarnished with virtually no reason.

4. Lastly, wouldn't have been ironic if Stagg had gone to the police to tell them "Lizzie James" had murdered a woman and child in a Satanic ritual killing?

All in all a very disturbing programme. I can hope Stagg and Rachels family can find peace now.

[bolt pp]

A truly shocking story of how an innocent man could get fitted up for a murder by the police who decided he was guilty without any evidence except for the fact he was a bit of loner with oddball beliefs.

A few things that came to mind after watching this programme:

1. The tabloid press are scum. To print Staggs picture next to the headline "No Girl is Safe" AFTER he was found not guilty was totally reprehensible.

2. Who are these people who turn up at trials to boo and shout catcalls at defendants in high profile cases? Have they really got nothing better to do with their miserable lives?

3. How long is going to take before defendants are given anonymity before a trial? The reporting of the Nickell case led the public to believe Stagg was guilty before the trial even began. Look at the footballers who have been arrested but not charged with rape. Everyone knows them and their names have been tarnished with virtually no reason.

4. Lastly, wouldn't have been ironic if Stagg had gone to the police to tell them "Lizzie James" had murdered a woman and child in a Satanic ritual killing?

All in all a very disturbing programme. I can hope Stagg and Rachels family can find peace now.

 

society adheres to such disposable ideology these days

[Scottish Dave]

A truly shocking story of how an innocent man could get fitted up for a murder by the police who decided he was guilty without any evidence except for the fact he was a bit of loner with oddball beliefs.

I urge you to watch...."In The Name Of The Father"

If that doesn't blow your mind, you ain't human

[The Camel]

A truly shocking story of how an innocent man could get fitted up for a murder by the police who decided he was guilty without any evidence except for the fact he was a bit of loner with oddball beliefs.

I urge you to watch...."In The Name Of The Father"

If that doesn't blow your mind, you ain't human

Have done.

It did.

[byronkincaid]

so many mistakes made

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7697876.stm

[Scottish Dave]

A truly shocking story of how an innocent man could get fitted up for a murder by the police who decided he was guilty without any evidence except for the fact he was a bit of loner with oddball beliefs.

I urge you to watch...."In The Name Of The Father"

If that doesn't blow your mind, you ain't human

Have done.

It did.

totally mate

The changing of people beliefs throughout the film, is remarkable.....it is an amazing film

The last scene is amazing ("Im walking out the front door with Gerry!!!"), it wouldn't have been the same if Danial Day Lewis didn't play Gerry Conlon, it wouln't have been the same movie

[CelticGeezeer]

A truly shocking story of how an innocent man could get fitted up for a murder by the police who decided he was guilty without any evidence except for the fact he was a bit of loner with oddball beliefs.

I urge you to watch...."In The Name Of The Father"

If that doesn't blow your mind, you ain't human

More of the same no film though.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/14/newsid_2543000/2543613.stm

[GreekStein]

which paper printed the 'No Girl is Safe' headline next to Stagg's picture?

[lazaroonie]

let me ask a hypothetical question,

if it could be proved that police procedures resulted in a higher cleanup rate of crime (the majority in safe convictions), but this invariably meant the odd miscarriage of justice, would you consider this a price worth paying ?

[bolt pp]

let me ask a hypothetical question,

if it could be proved that police procedures resulted in a higher cleanup rate of crime (the majority in safe convictions), but this invariably meant the odd miscarriage of justice, would you consider this a price worth paying ?

lol, fuck no!!!!!!

I wonder if the guy doing life and his family's life is ruined would take solace in the fact that, well atleast theres a "higher clan up rate"

[kinboshi]

...and another reason why the death penalty isn't a good option.

[lazaroonie]

let me ask a hypothetical question,

if it could be proved that police procedures resulted in a higher cleanup rate of crime (the majority in safe convictions), but this invariably meant the odd miscarriage of justice, would you consider this a price worth paying ?

lol, fuck no!!!!!!

I wonder if the guy doing life and his family's life is ruined would take solace in the fact that, well atleast theres a "higher clan up rate"

but surely it is naive to expect total infalibility.

[Acidmouse]

They went out of their way to stitch Stagg up, the police knew he hadn't done it. Same as the Jill Dando suspect who went down for a few years, anyone with some mental health problems and a record is likely to be accused of it.

[ripple11]

Ok the Police investigation had all the hallmarks of an episode of Cagney and Lacey..........but how on earth did the CPS consider there was enough(ANY) evidence to proceed to the Old Bailey for such a high profile case !!!

[bolt pp]

let me ask a hypothetical question,

if it could be proved that police procedures resulted in a higher cleanup rate of crime (the majority in safe convictions), but this invariably meant the odd miscarriage of justice, would you consider this a price worth paying ?

lol, fuck no!!!!!!

I wonder if the guy doing life and his family's life is ruined would take solace in the fact that, well atleast theres a "higher clan up rate"

but surely it is naive to expect total infalibility.

there will be miscaraiges of justice i agree, they shouldnt be accepted though, especially not with the justification you're suggesting.

You're going further away from rule or law with this idea and it can get dangerous because all of a sudden the police, as opposed to carrying out their duties in enforcing the law and protecting the public, start to work on their own volition and the autonomy it promotes leaves us with a police force that are corrupt and content to deviate from the perameters of legislation, very much like it was in the 1980's but they brought in the police and criminals evidence act to stop all that shit and we dont want to go back to it.