raising kids/religion etc

[kinboshi]

the problem is they don't have a choice.which is fine if they are of religious persuasion but if they are not they still have to attend R.E which IMO is wrong,surely they would be better off being educated in something else

Children aren't of a religious persuasion.  There's no such thing as a child born a Muslim, or a Christian, etc.  Their parents make this decision for them.

I think you're right about RE.  Don't they have something called social studies or something similar, which talks about religion, moral issues, etc.?  It certainly doesn't need a religious doctrine to educate children about that.

i suppose the only exception to the rule are the Jewish, You are born jewish and the choice to follow the failth yours.

There are two uses of being of the term Jew and Jewish.  One is the group/race, and the other is someone who follows Judaism.  The two are very closely intertwined (obviously), but are distinct.  You can be Jewish (part of the group), and not believe in god.  So someone could be an 'atheist Jew' and it's not contradictory.  So a child might be born 'Jewish', but they are not born believing the Jewish faith.

[Newmanseye]

the problem is they don't have a choice.which is fine if they are of religious persuasion but if they are not they still have to attend R.E which IMO is wrong,surely they would be better off being educated in something else

Children aren't of a religious persuasion.  There's no such thing as a child born a Muslim, or a Christian, etc.  Their parents make this decision for them.

I think you're right about RE.  Don't they have something called social studies or something similar, which talks about religion, moral issues, etc.?  It certainly doesn't need a religious doctrine to educate children about that.

i suppose the only exception to the rule are the Jewish, You are born jewish and the choice to follow the failth yours.

There are two uses of being of the term Jew and Jewish.  One is the group/race, and the other is someone who follows Judaism.  The two are very closely intertwined (obviously), but are distinct.  You can be Jewish (part of the group), and not believe in god.  So someone could be an 'atheist Jew' and it's not contradictory.  So a child might be born 'Jewish', but they are not born believing the Jewish faith.

i know that

[Dingdell]

There can't be a god, Chompy just finalled at Luton and no god would ever let that happen. End of discussion. 

[WYSINWYG]

There can't be a god, Chompy just finalled at Luton and no god would ever let that happen. End of discussion. 

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[Newmanseye]

There can't be a god, Chompy just finalled at Luton and no god would ever let that happen. End of discussion. 

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god didnt do it thast for sure, You see when a man and a woman love eachother very much.........

[kinboshi]

There can't be a god, Chompy just finalled at Luton and no god would ever let that happen. End of discussion. 

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Why doesn't everyone look like that?

Proof there isn't a god.

[relaedgc]

I was allowed to opt out of religious studies in High School. I jumped at the opportunity, I have to say. I think the important factor to remember in regards to children growing up is that they're going to make their own decision about this anyway, so you shouldn't feel worried about offering your own opinion. If someone is going to have an influence on them, so be it, let it be you.

Discussing heaven and hell is more of a sore point to me, given that I think we were led down this dark path so many years ago because of the fact we are afraid of the unknown. Religion is a cheat for death. A path to immortality. A better life. Something after this. "I don't want to die and for that to be the end. I want to believe in something more."

I do believe that religious communities instill, on the whole, a good message and a moral education but the benefits are weighed heavily against the simple fact that this person believes in a being so powerful and benign that his entire world rests on works written by a mortal group of men that hadn't got the answers we now have. God was the answer to those questions we've begun to unravel with science.

[WYSINWYG]

I was allowed to opt out of religious studies in High School. I jumped at the opportunity, I have to say. I think the important factor to remember in regards to children growing up is that they're going to make their own decision about this anyway, so you shouldn't feel worried about offering your own opinion. If someone is going to have an influence on them, so be it, let it be you.

Discussing heaven and hell is more of a sore point to me, given that I think we were led down this dark path so many years ago because of the fact we are afraid of the unknown. Religion is a cheat for death. A path to immortality. A better life. Something after this. "I don't want to die and for that to be the end. I want to believe in something more."

I do believe that religious communities instill, on the whole, a good message and a moral education but the benefits are weighed heavily against the simple fact that this person believes in a being so powerful and benign that his entire world rests on works written by a mortal group of men that hadn't got the answers we now have. God was the answer to those questions we've begun to unravel with science.

[X] My parents offered me their opinion
[X] They wanted to be the ones having an influence on me
[ ] I'm glad they bothered.

[X] Religion is a cheat for life?

Unless you believe in God, which I am coming to more and more

On the second day, God put her on a beach, and saw that it was good

[gatso]

Why is it that religion is a non opt out lesson in school?

it isn't. schools have an obligation to teach religion but all parents (at non denominational schools) have the option to opt out on behalf of their children and 6th form pupils can do it for themselves. it's only at church schools where opt outs tend to not be allowed as you kind of signed up for it when you applied to the school

[WYSINWYG]

There can't be a god, Chompy just finalled at Luton and no god would ever let that happen. End of discussion. 

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They can!

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Works for me

[bobAlike]

There can't be a god, Chompy just finalled at Luton and no god would ever let that happen. End of discussion. 

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What would Nike be called if there were no Gods?

[WYSINWYG]

There can't be a god, Chompy just finalled at Luton and no god would ever let that happen. End of discussion. 

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What would Nike be called if there were no Gods?

[ ] I knew that Nike was the greek goddess of victory. Nice spot!

[bolt pp]

There can't be a god, Chompy just finalled at Luton and no god would ever let that happen. End of discussion. 

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god didnt do it thast for sure, You see when a man and a woman love eachother very much.........

then what ffs?!!!!

dont stop a story just as you've started it

[cia260895]

Why is it that religion is a non opt out lesson in school?

it isn't. schools have an obligation to teach religion but all parents  (at non denominational schools) have the option to opt out on behalf of their children and 6th form pupils can do it for themselves. it's only at church schools where opt outs tend to not be allowed as you kind of signed up for it when you applied to the school

But this is the parents deciding not the kids,My eldest would love to opt out but his mum wont let him,so he has to continue to do it.I have spoken to the school on this subject and was told that seeing as i am not the parent with care i cannot have any influence on his schooling wtf!!

[gatso]

Why is it that religion is a non opt out lesson in school?

it isn't. schools have an obligation to teach religion but all parents  (at non denominational schools) have the option to opt out on behalf of their children and 6th form pupils can do it for themselves. it's only at church schools where opt outs tend to not be allowed as you kind of signed up for it when you applied to the school

But this is the parents deciding not the kids,My eldest would love to opt out but his mum wont let him,so he has to continue to do it.I have spoken to the school on this subject and was told that seeing as i am not the parent with care i cannot have any influence on his schooling wtf!!

a cross party commitee agrees with you http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1956097/Religious-education-classes-%27should-be-optional%27.html can't see it happening though, you get on shakey ground when you start letting kids opt out of subjects