Hmmmmm. All options open. What to do?

[AlexMartin]

Villain is a regular, pretty decent TAG. We have some history. Recently i just called a small 4b ip w A9s, checked back a A93 board, then bet the J turn and shoved the 2 river to get called by QQ. He views me as decent LAG. Turn spot is interesting in my opinion. Thoughts?



***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 464817907 *****
NL $1/$2 Texas Hold'em - Friday, January 09, 15:41:48 GMT 2009
Table Oxygen 114 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: Caimera ( $207.45 )
Seat 2: athos2 ( $0 )
Seat 3: JammyJenny ( $195.20 )
Seat 4: Aidfingers ( $328.10 )
Seat 5: smo11ek ( $204.05 )
Seat 6: pasatempos3 ( $301.65 )
JammyJenny posts big blind [$2]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JammyJenny [ , ]
Aidfingers raises to [$6]
smo11ek folds
pasatempos3 calls [$6]
Caimera folds
JammyJenny raises to [$16]
Aidfingers calls [$10]
pasatempos3 calls [$10]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
JammyJenny bets [$36]
Aidfingers calls [$36]
pasatempos3 folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
JammyJenny checks
Aidfingers bets [$40]

[MC]

I hate these kind of hands.

I guess jamming you're only getting called if you're beat.

Folding I don't like either cos he doesn't have to have you beat here, he could be on a draw and using the scare card. The low bet could just be him repping.

I don't like calling either cos you're gonna be in the same spot on the river, only maybe letting draws get there.

I think it's a call the bet and go with your gut on the river :-S

[spence]

Just shove.

As this is a line he should believe you'd take with a fd or 98 (no room to 3 bet AI on turn) he should be calling with any pair.  I like just betting the turn tho and I'd expect to be shoved on by his whole range.

[cia260895]

with my limited knowledge,I'd put him on either pp f/d or ak So with that in mind I'd shove it in

[MC]

I like just betting the turn tho and I'd expect to be shoved on by his whole range.

^^that sounds reasonable...

[kinboshi]

I love his bet size.  It's one of those spots that suits a TAG player.  It could be a bluff, or it could be the nuts.  

I have no idea what I'd do here.  

[GlasgowBandit]

What does his bet size say about him Alex what usual spots does he lead the turn for a 1/3 of the pot?
It seems to me like he is giving you room to hang yourself here by hoping you shove OTT.
These sort of spots rack my brain sometimes and mostly its entirley player dependent for me, I hate to just call, it feels week, but the c/r could be intepretated in 2 ways for me it either looks like a monster or spewey.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him hold a monster like ATh in this spot. 

[noble1]

i think you should of led the turn but as played it does look like he is feeling you out after your check.After his spewy call with QQ previously i would be inclined not to show him to much respect here,it feels like he is on a flush draw to me AK AQ AJhh maybe JJ 99 88 after his QQ hand could be possible i guess, so it would be a reluctant re-raise all in...

AA KK u would think either pre or on the flop being a tag he would of re-raised,if it is 9Thh TJhh TAhh then that would go in the notes as after your show of strength on the flop AThh etc from a decent tag would be re-raising surely

i'd say your check has confused him as much as it has you with his probe type bet on the turn and i think your ahead of to much his of range to fold...

check call the turn check call river is a option here but i'd prefer the all in on the turn in this situation..

[AlexMartin]

for the thinkers among u, how often do u think 10's are in his range?

[UpTheMariners]

id like to see a turn bet here, whats his fold to 3bet %? if they fold high % a ten is almost never going to be in his range unless he has TT. a weak turn bet like this often means somin like a mid pair trying to get to showdown quite cheap (is he a showdown monkey?).

[AlexMartin]

id like to see a turn bet here, whats his fold to 3bet %? if they fold high % a ten is almost never going to be in his range unless he has TT. a weak turn bet like this often means somin like a mid pair trying to get to showdown quite cheap (is he a showdown monkey?).

so u think b/c is better than craia or does c/c c/c trump everything?

Hes a TAG, average showdown %, but highish wSD%.

Im not sure when you examine combinatronics, whether its best just to crai now, as given villain is a thinking opponents, he will ALWAYS bluff this turn, or to c/c, c/c to maybe extract from bluffs. Also, im concerned that villain knows his FE will be very low if he fires turn and has to put the rest in on river, he knows his likelihood of getting called has gone up a tonne. FWIW, i think there are like next to no tens in his range, he knows i am forced to play faceup 3 way to semi-wet board and the only tens he calls with are suited heart tens which he will ship on the flop to force FE v a narrow range. IMO.

[reenot]

I think it is a fold. He has obviously gay bet the turn to induce a shove from you!!

[mondatoo]

Combinatronics FTMFW YO

I think it is a fold. He has obviously gay bet the turn to induce a shove from you!!

Sigh,someone fix this please 

[action man]

i wouldnt fold this. call, c/c would be my line

[sovietsong]

i wouldnt fold this. call, c/c would be my line

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