What to do here, heads up?

[MC]

this bit interests me. why would you make it 120 generally? surely way too big here

Pretty standard for an out of position raise. If you're playing a calling station who calls a raise with any two on the button, I raise 4x with my premium hands. Maybe KJs doesn't qualify, but you might as well get them to put in as much as possible with their 95 offsuit...

Interesting Flushy, will try out checking those kinda hands oop more often and see how it works out...

[boldie]

this bit interests me. why would you make it 120 generally? surely way too big here

Pretty standard for an out of position raise. If you're playing a calling station who calls a raise with any two on the button, I raise 4x with my premium hands. Maybe KJs doesn't qualify, but you might as well get them to put in as much as possible with their 95 offsuit...

Interesting Flushy, will try out checking those kinda hands oop more often and see how it works out...

but you don't know yet whether the guy is a calling station..you only just sat down and are still feeling him out. 120 is too big and KJ is not the hand to do it with.

[MC]

but you don't know yet whether the guy is a calling station..you only just sat down and are still feeling him out. 120 is too big and KJ is not the hand to do it with.

Yeah man, I getcha. Have taken advice on board...


In the hand, I checked the river intending to call whatever he bet, like all of you suggested. He checked back and mucked (sadly on boss I can't discover his cards)...

I wondered if there was any argument for like a 250 bet on the end, to get value from all the Queens or worse Kings that might call?

[Rupert]

lol wat.  raising KJs here is standard i'd say - i'd 4x it tho.  flops fine, check turn, as played i'd bet river small and fold to a raise - still get value from enough hands imo

[MC]

lol wat.  raising KJs here is standard i'd say - i'd 4x it tho.  flops fine, check turn, as played i'd bet river small and fold to a raise - still get value from enough hands imo

I've been doing a lot of reading since this post, seems a lot of ppl consider a 4x raise with KJ as standard

Will be mixing my play up!

[ACE2M]

i agree with most of the others, early stages i just see the flop and hope to catch them out or outplay then, when a bit further on i raise 4x maybe 5x oop and 3x with position. Only ever played a lot of these up to $50/$100 so if you are playing higher maybe you need more agression early on, still don't like 3x though.

As played i check call from the turn.

Slight thread robbage but what represents better value HU sngs or double your money 10 man sngs?

[MC]

Slight thread robbage but what represents better value HU sngs or double your money 10 man sngs?

Good question man. I've only played a few of these 10 man tourneys so I'm not sure what winrate you can expect.

In Heads ups you have to win 52.5% of games to break even (excluding rakeback), 55-62% is an achievable winrate, and I can play on average 9 an hour 2 tabling.

In double-or nothings you'd have to cash 55% of the time to break even. So you'd need to hit 58%+ winrate for them to be as potentially profitable as heads up, and I guess it depends on how many you can play an hour...I'm not sure about this...