Cash staking question- what chop?

[AlexMartin]

Hypothetical q. If i was to stake someone to play say 200nl cash and give them $4k a week to be swept/topped up on a weekly basis what percent should they and i get. Stakee is a winning player over a huge sample but obv risk is 100% mine.

[mondatoo]

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[DaveShoelace]

Generally speaking, 50/50, 60/40 or 40/60. I personally wouldn't want to stake someone who only wanted 30% of the profits (wouldn't trust them lol) and likewise I'd be wanting at least 40% for risking my own wonga. Obviously depends how good the horse is, why they want staking etc. Id probably stake a good player with a good reason for needing staking and be prepared to take only 40%, but if say they were an up and coming player/bad BR management etc Id want 60% and would offer to help them with a bit of coaching/hand analysis etc

If you trust the player and he is good, 50/50 makes sense and takes away any possible tension made by one person getting a bigger share.

Big thing for me would be making sure you get the same split of rakeback/loyalty bonus/sign up bonus etc, because this is obviously huge at the 200nl level. Id also want them to have a good loyalty deal
I seem to recall Longy once posted a link to a 2+2 article on cash staking that was very good.

If I was staking a cash player, I'd also want to have input into where they were playing and how they game select. I would never stake a 200nl player on Full Tilt for example, so many easier places to play.

[GreekStein]

I think a fair thing is to start it out at 50-50 and if he's making you a good continued profit let him have 55-60%

[GreekStein]

Thanks btw Alex - appreciate it. I'll crush.

[DaveShoelace]

I think a fair thing is to start it out at 50-50 and if he's making you a good continued profit let him have 55-60%

Thats not good maths n that, it works out to 115% silly head

[Longy]

I seem to recall Longy once posted a link to a 2+2 article on cash staking that was very good.

Here it is http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/135/staking/guide-staking-players-cash-games-306028/

I believe it is buried somewhere in the legendary Fergus thread.

[thetank]

It's all about risk imo.

What is your best estimate as to how much chance he has of busting the 20 buy-ins?

If there's a 10% chance at the beginning of the week that he'll have a 4k downswing, then I think similar rates that have been suggested so far would be fair.
If there's lower than 2% chance each week that he'll lose the wad, then after proving himself, the guy getting staked should be able to get himself a much better rate imo.   

If there's much coaching involved, then that affects things too.

edit :  and how much money they are making, ldo

[GreekStein]

I think a fair thing is to start it out at 50-50 and if he's making you a good continued profit let him have 55-60%

Thats not good maths n that, it works out to 115% silly head

lol Dave