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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2005, 08:51:40 PM »

I saw him twice, once down at Meadow Lane and, about 18 months ago, in The Links pub in Liphook. Strange that last location, it was near the place he used to go to dry out.
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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2005, 08:53:33 PM »

Met him once at the strand casino in Manchester,4 of us over from Leeds for a punt,My first time in a joint did our money, no great surprise there  it was one of the guys birhdays he was 27  we found a dollar stuck it on 27 it hit  stuck the lot on 26 -29  in it romped money back and in front whooppee, split it in 4 , of he goe to look for someone in form, on the dice he finds a player we all pile in next to him  3 passes later he shoots out. bolloks I get the dice 28 minutes later and 9 fills iI 7 out total profit 700 quid, down the other end of the table george best with 8 of the fills What a player. Sad
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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2005, 10:36:07 PM »

This is the 2nd  poker forum I have posted on today about george best. I am quite sick of reading how great a man he was when in effect he was a wife beating alcoholic. I lost my father a few years ago to an illness that what not of his own making and he never raised a hand to my mother at any time, not a day passes that I don't think of him. I know you really shouldn't speak ill of the dead but this man ruined his own life and that of others (can you imagine being married to him)- when he was given a 2nd chance at life with a liver transplant he drank that away as well. Sorry to go against all you nostalgia fans but I do not look up to any man who doesn't cherish life or hits women.   
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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2005, 12:15:34 AM »

Told it like it is Ariston good post. Magical talent or geniusness(?) does not excuse that kind of behaviour.
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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2005, 12:21:55 AM »

This is the 2nd  poker forum I have posted on today about george best. I am quite sick of reading how great a man he was when in effect he was a wife beating alcoholic. I lost my father a few years ago to an illness that what not of his own making and he never raised a hand to my mother at any time, not a day passes that I don't think of him. I know you really shouldn't speak ill of the dead but this man ruined his own life and that of others (can you imagine being married to him)- when he was given a 2nd chance at life with a liver transplant he drank that away as well. Sorry to go against all you nostalgia fans but I do not look up to any man who doesn't cherish life or hits women.   

Very good point.
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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2005, 04:41:13 AM »

Perhaps a little unsympathetically timed though.
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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2005, 04:57:53 AM »

Ariston i agree.
As i am from another generation i never saw him play, my only knowledge is of an alcoholic wife beater who took a liver from a more deserved soul.
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2005, 05:11:15 AM »

Whatever you think of the man I think you should at least wait till he's cold before you diss him so.

Yes he's made mistakes in his life but who hasn't. His crimes are not to be judged by us.

At least he never blamed anybody else but himself for his problems.

If most people were to have walked in George Best's shoes (boots?) they would do well to avoid a life of alcholism.

Who's to say who deserves a liver transplant and who doesn't. George Best, as a human soul, was equally as deserving of a transplant as Mother Teresa or Adolf Hitler if they had the same condition IMHO. Life is life.
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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2005, 10:40:01 AM »

Whatever you think of the man I think you should at least wait till he's cold before you diss him so.

Yes he's made mistakes in his life but who hasn't. His crimes are not to be judged by us.

At least he never blamed anybody else but himself for his problems.

If most people were to have walked in George Best's shoes (boots?) they would do well to avoid a life of alcholism.

Who's to say who deserves a liver transplant and who doesn't. George Best, as a human soul, was equally as deserving of a transplant as Mother Teresa or Adolf Hitler if they had the same condition IMHO. Life is life.

 

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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2005, 10:52:33 AM »

I am certainly not without sin but I always say it as I see it. So many people heroworshipped this guy who threw his life. I have posted this on here because I always speak my mind on here. I saw similar threads on virtually every other forum I frequent and maybe this one was the last straw. I perhaps should have bit my lip on this one but I didn't and I am not one to go deleting a post because it may be a little contraversial. Any man who strikes his wife/partner gets no respect from me or sympathy from me, there are certain sins I can just not forgive. When Amerillo Slim dies there will be plenty of threads about how good he was for our game of choice, I will not be sympathetic there either because of his sins-no matter how much I respect his game I do not respect the man. 
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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2005, 11:04:49 AM »

Best is hero worshipped because he gave millions pleasure.  Like almost every genius he was flawed.

I didn't know the man and so I don't pass judgement on him.  At the end of the day "for his sins" he is lying dead today.  Surely punishment enough?  Or do the dead still need an after-life rub down?
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2005, 11:13:40 AM »

Chaps, long time reader but don't post. While this thread is going just wanted to spare a minute for Richard Burns who lost his battle with a brain tumour this morning.

Spent a few hours interviewing him a couple of years ago after his first blackout. He didn't realise at the time it was a tumour.

A thoroughly nice guy and very sad news.
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2005, 11:20:19 AM »

Welcome to the forum Gus, you were sooooo lucky last sunday.....
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2005, 11:37:28 AM »

This is the 2nd  poker forum I have posted on today about george best. I am quite sick of reading how great a man he was when in effect he was a wife beating alcoholic. I lost my father a few years ago to an illness that what not of his own making and he never raised a hand to my mother at any time, not a day passes that I don't think of him. I know you really shouldn't speak ill of the dead but this man ruined his own life and that of others (can you imagine being married to him)- when he was given a 2nd chance at life with a liver transplant he drank that away as well. Sorry to go against all you nostalgia fans but I do not look up to any man who doesn't cherish life or hits women.  

Total agree with you ariston, straight from the heart and totally honest.

Although having seen Best play a few times live, I'm afraid my memories of such a talented and gifted player, is that of a women beater.

I'm sorry, I really don't mean to upset Best's family, friends or fans, but I suspect that when the mourning period is over, the same Media circus that have been camped by his bedside, will crucify his memory.
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« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2005, 11:46:31 AM »

Aha, Nemesis. Tottenham I recall from elsewhere?

Lucky? Hmmm, maybe a little. But it was coming second half. Reckon a draw was about fair. Thought you'd win 2-0 before the game.....phew!

Thanks for the welcome....no longer the voyeur I guess.
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