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[Marky147]

Another good article written by different journalists.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/16/achilleas-kallakis-fraud-british-virgin-islands

[MANTIS01]

You certainly shouldn't feel ashamed of your feelings of forgiveness. People definitely deserve a second chance that's for sure.

I'm of the opinion though that forgiveness should only be for those who feel genuine remorse. If this fella who I've never met and never will is genuinely sorry for what he's done and regrets his fraudulent activities then I believe he should be forgiven and offered a second chance.

Unfortunately the fact that he's pleading not guilty suggests he doesn't give a shit about what he's done hence why I think they should throw the book at him.

I'd guess you read the Frankie book? That's the one I'd have chose as well. Thuggery's far more interesting than some bloke who eats worms.

Yes that thread about the mucked hand was a bit strange. Why the need for aggro over something so trivial? Very strange. Most of it was just internet talk though to be fair. I'm pretty sure that everyone would've just kept quiet and done absolutely nothing in the real world.

I was astonished at the anger levels over such a trivillity, I really was. Everyone was like, "grrrraw\fgzsthhtjhtyhryhrtdttryoudirtyfilthybastard".

Not sure if it was that thread, or a similar one, where one guy, who I met recently & was perfectly amiable & personable, said "it was the most tilting thing in my whole life".

I've barely stopped musing on that since. Wow, just wow.

As I have posted previously, my Grandad Angell got "a bit cross" with the Germans when they dropped a bomb clean through his basement coal-cellar. Times have changed so much.   

A thread like that is similar to comedy village stocks. You have a panto villain sat in the middle of the square and booing locals are invited to throw rotten tomatoes at him. Now back in the day I reckon stocks were good fun for people, say if you had a bad day at work you could pelt some deserving villain with rotten tomatoes on the way home. It might look barbaric but the worst thing that happens is a villain gets hit with a few rotten tomatoes. Now if instead of tomatoes the crowd took turns giving him a chelsea smile or pouring petrol over him and setting him alight I too would be astonished at the anger levels.

[Jon MW]

You certainly shouldn't feel ashamed of your feelings of forgiveness. People definitely deserve a second chance that's for sure.

I'm of the opinion though that forgiveness should only be for those who feel genuine remorse. If this fella who I've never met and never will is genuinely sorry for what he's done and regrets his fraudulent activities then I believe he should be forgiven and offered a second chance.

Unfortunately the fact that he's pleading not guilty suggests he doesn't give a shit about what he's done hence why I think they should throw the book at him.

I'd guess you read the Frankie book? That's the one I'd have chose as well. Thuggery's far more interesting than some bloke who eats worms.

Yes that thread about the mucked hand was a bit strange. Why the need for aggro over something so trivial? Very strange. Most of it was just internet talk though to be fair. I'm pretty sure that everyone would've just kept quiet and done absolutely nothing in the real world.

I was astonished at the anger levels over such a trivillity, I really was. Everyone was like, "grrrraw\fgzsthhtjhtyhryhrtdttryoudirtyfilthybastard".

Not sure if it was that thread, or a similar one, where one guy, who I met recently & was perfectly amiable & personable, said "it was the most tilting thing in my whole life".

I've barely stopped musing on that since. Wow, just wow.

As I have posted previously, my Grandad Angell got "a bit cross" with the Germans when they dropped a bomb clean through his basement coal-cellar. Times have changed so much.   

A thread like that is similar to comedy village stocks. You have a panto villain sat in the middle of the square and booing locals are invited to throw rotten tomatoes at him. Now back in the day I reckon stocks were good fun for people, say if you had a bad day at work you could pelt some deserving villain with rotten tomatoes on the way home. It might look barbaric but the worst thing that happens is a villain gets hit with a few rotten tomatoes. Now if instead of tomatoes the crowd took turns giving him a chelsea smile or pouring petrol over him and setting him alight I too would be astonished at the anger levels.

Some people would also get pelted with rocks and stones while they were in the stocks - from what I've read people didn't tend to get killed but the one's who were particularly disliked did end up pretty roughed up.

[AndrewT]

Seven years' porridge.

http://www.propertyweek.com/finance/tycoon-sentenced-to-7-years-in-prison/5048833.article

[redsimon]

Another good article written by different journalists.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/16/achilleas-kallakis-fraud-british-virgin-islands

He liked his meat "well done". Definitely a wrong 'un then

[bobAlike]

Seven years' porridge.

http://www.propertyweek.com/finance/tycoon-sentenced-to-7-years-in-prison/5048833.article

7 years, out in 3 probably. I wonder if he has much money hidden away??

[Marky147]

Wonder how much of the dough he managed to squirrel away...

[Marky147]

Seven years' porridge.

http://www.propertyweek.com/finance/tycoon-sentenced-to-7-years-in-prison/5048833.article

7 years, out in 3 probably. I wonder if he has much money hidden away??

If he's got a bit about him still, I doubt his 3 will be too hard going either...

[The Camel]

Some people get nearly the same sentence for benefit fraud of a measly few grand.

Just don't set their sights high enough.

[redsimon]

Some people get nearly the same sentence for benefit fraud of a measly few grand.

Just don't set their sights high enough.

Can't think of one case where benefit fraud got 7 years tbh.

[Doobs]

Some people get nearly the same sentence for benefit fraud of a measly few grand.

Just don't set their sights high enough.

Can't think of one case where benefit fraud got 7 years tbh.

So close, 6 years 11 months

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15887286

7 years is the max, so pretty unlikely someone got jailed so long for a few grand.

The sentence does seem a bit feeble still.

[redsimon]

Some people get nearly the same sentence for benefit fraud of a measly few grand.

Just don't set their sights high enough.

Can't think of one case where benefit fraud got 7 years tbh.

So close, 6 years 11 months

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15887286

7 years is the max, so pretty unlikely someone got jailed so long for a few grand.

The sentence does seem a bit feeble still.

Hardly a measly few grand but well spotted

[RED-DOG]

If Bear Grylls and Mad Frankie Fraser had a love child, I wonder what he's turn out like.

[leethefish]

TK. Have you seen those 2 films about the whole banking collapse?

There's 'Inside Job' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Job_(film)

and 'Too big to fail' http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1742683/

I'm sure there's others but these are the 2 that I've viewed.

Inside Job in particular is really good because it's a documentary type film that explains a lot of how it all happened.

Thousands lost their homes whilst a few made countless millions seemingly out of their misery.

If you've not watched them I'll burn a copy of each for you. I realise this is slightly hypocritical as really you should buy them rather than steal them off the internet but obviously we all know that piracy is a 'victimless' crime

Could you burn me a copy of each please mat I will be at DTD Saturday .....thanks in advance ......your fat friend !!

[Tal]

Worth pointing out that the maximum sentence was 10 years, I believe.

The fraud was "only" £61m, although the amounts they actually borrowed were 12 times that.

Also, the judge said the banks were partly to blame.

I imagine these factors are taken into account when sentencing.

What is the maximum amount of time you would be prepared to spend in prison (in all likelihood, little of it spent in a really nasty one) if you could live like a king for twenty years?

The whole thing is positively Faustian