blonde & Poker Trillion

[MANTIS01]

and if I can do the right thing by Blonde, PL or any of the others in the future, then rest assured I will

Col

You're being well sharp sorting players probs out on this thread Col. That's because you want these players to continue with RockEm. So in reality you're doing stuff that ultimately benefits YOU. Can you tell us exactly what you've done to do the right thing by Blonde and what the result is. By showing how you are pursuiting this debt in a vigorous manner would be the best way to pacify players imo and be a great PR exercise for you. Ultimately the debt is a marketing one and you were responsible for marketing. Your post only tells us you've sorted yourself and you are confused as to who the good guys are imo.

[Geo the Sarge]

By all accounts, the message seems to be that ELG are protecting the players' interests, their money appears to be safe. What does not appear to be safe is the money owed by Trillion to various companies.

I don't really play on Trillion myself, however it looks like those with Trillion accounts should have nothing to fear by continuing to play on Rockem.

Maybe I'm just too trusting??

Geo

[Geo the Sarge]

and if I can do the right thing by Blonde, PL or any of the others in the future, then rest assured I will

Col

You're being well sharp sorting players probs out on this thread Col. That's because you want these players to continue with RockEm. So in reality you're doing stuff that ultimately benefits YOU. Can you tell us exactly what you've done to do the right thing by Blonde and what the result is. By showing how you are pursuiting this debt in a vigorous manner would be the best way to pacify players imo and be a great PR exercise for you. Ultimately the debt is a marketing one and you were responsible for marketing. Your post only tells us you've sorted yourself and you are confused as to who the good guys are imo.

Sorry mate,

I personally think you're being a bit hard on the guy. Ok, with Trillion he may well have been involved in marketing, however never neccessarily held the purse strings.

I think posts by Tikay and Colin himself clearly show that he himself is owed monies by the former owners of Trillion.

I for one applaud him for not hiding his head in the sand and offering the support to players as he has.

Geo

[AndrewT]

By all accounts, the message seems to be that ELG are protecting the players' interests, their money appears to be safe. What does not appear to be safe is the money owed by Trillion to various companies.

I don't really play on Trillion myself, however it looks like those with Trillion accounts should have nothing to fear by continuing to play on Rockem.

Maybe I'm just too trusting??

Geo

My read is this:

Player's accounts were always OK - Maltese gaming licencing regulations saw to that.

The company debts of Poker Trillion will die with the company - Blonde/Punters Lounge/whoever aren't going to get anything.

It is as yet unclear who is behind Rockem Poker. From a moral point of view, I'm sure many players would be wary of playing with them if it turned out that Rockem Poker was just PT under a different name. I hope that, after his unfortunate circumstances with Trillion, Colin remembered to ask his new employers exactly who he was working for at interview, and perhaps he could pass that info onto the players he is trying to convince to migrate across with him?

[MANTIS01]

and if I can do the right thing by Blonde, PL or any of the others in the future, then rest assured I will

Col

You're being well sharp sorting players probs out on this thread Col. That's because you want these players to continue with RockEm. So in reality you're doing stuff that ultimately benefits YOU. Can you tell us exactly what you've done to do the right thing by Blonde and what the result is. By showing how you are pursuiting this debt in a vigorous manner would be the best way to pacify players imo and be a great PR exercise for you. Ultimately the debt is a marketing one and you were responsible for marketing. Your post only tells us you've sorted yourself and you are confused as to who the good guys are imo.

Sorry mate,

I personally think you're being a bit hard on the guy. Ok, with Trillion he may well have been involved in marketing, however never neccessarily held the purse strings.

I think posts by Tikay and Colin himself clearly show that he himself is owed monies by the former owners of Trillion.

I for one applaud him for not hiding his head in the sand and offering the support to players as he has.

Geo

Dude, sorting the players personal monies is +1 for RockEm having bought the PT database. Saying those personal monies are honoured only pacifies those players interested in themselves. I'm saying if you are a player who derives benefit from a free Blonde service you should only be truly pacified if this debt is honoured along with your own. Anything else is lip-service to entice you to continue playing on this new skin imo.

[Geo the Sarge]

By all accounts, the message seems to be that ELG are protecting the players' interests, their money appears to be safe. What does not appear to be safe is the money owed by Trillion to various companies.

I don't really play on Trillion myself, however it looks like those with Trillion accounts should have nothing to fear by continuing to play on Rockem.

Maybe I'm just too trusting??

Geo

My read is this:

Player's accounts were always OK - Maltese gaming licencing regulations saw to that.

The company debts of Poker Trillion will die with the company - Blonde/Punters Lounge/whoever aren't going to get anything.

It is as yet unclear who is behind Rockem Poker. From a moral point of view, I'm sure many players would be wary of playing with them if it turned out that Rockem Poker was just PT under a different name. I hope that, after his unfortunate circumstances with Trillion, Colin remembered to ask his new employers exactly who he was working for at interview, and perhaps he could pass that info onto the players he is trying to convince to migrate across with him?

I understand this Andrew and have made the assumption that Rockem are completely new owners (I could be wrong.) I'd doubt very much if anyone would just move over with the same employers if he was still owed wages by them.

and if I can do the right thing by Blonde, PL or any of the others in the future, then rest assured I will

Col

You're being well sharp sorting players probs out on this thread Col. That's because you want these players to continue with RockEm. So in reality you're doing stuff that ultimately benefits YOU. Can you tell us exactly what you've done to do the right thing by Blonde and what the result is. By showing how you are pursuiting this debt in a vigorous manner would be the best way to pacify players imo and be a great PR exercise for you. Ultimately the debt is a marketing one and you were responsible for marketing. Your post only tells us you've sorted yourself and you are confused as to who the good guys are imo.

Sorry mate,

I personally think you're being a bit hard on the guy. Ok, with Trillion he may well have been involved in marketing, however never neccessarily held the purse strings.

I think posts by Tikay and Colin himself clearly show that he himself is owed monies by the former owners of Trillion.

I for one applaud him for not hiding his head in the sand and offering the support to players as he has.

Geo

Dude, sorting the players personal monies is +1 for RockEm having bought the PT database. Saying those personal monies are honoured only pacifies those players interested in themselves. I'm saying if you are a player who derives benefit from a free Blonde service you should only be truly pacified if this debt is honoured along with your own. Anything else is lip-service to entice you to continue playing on this new skin imo.

Players and their money is paramount. Regardless what site, players are only interested in that their money is safe. It maters little to players whether sites have problems with debts which do not effect their money.

Does it annoy me that blonde are due £7k? of course it does, however my main priority would be to ensure that my own monies were safe.

Many have posted asking that very question and have been re-assured by Colin and others that it is, and postings of withdrawals received seem to support this.

Colin had mentioned that there were to be meetings etc over the last week or so and may well have known that another company were taking over the site, he did say he wasn't in a position to elaborate and may well have offered the assistance to players that he did to assist his possible employment with the new owners and to attempt to maintain the player base on the new site, nothing wrong with that IMO.

One thing we can say is that by having this thread the players have had an immediate point of contact which could only be a good thing.

Oh, and I luv the idea of being a dude as a grandfather.

Geo

[TightEnd]

"It maters little to players whether sites have problems with debts which do not effect their money."

Marvellous. As we are about to find out, instances like this affect what we as a site can do, big time

[kinboshi]

Does it annoy me that blonde are due £7k? of course it does, however my main priority would be to ensure that my own monies were safe.

I also like this forum, the updates, the blonde bashes, the results service, the articles, the blonde leagues, etc.

[Laxie]

It maters little to players whether sites have problems with debts which do not effect their money.

I'm sorry Geo, but this time I have to STRONGLY disagree with you!    

They still owe me money.  I deposited via credit card and since I want to withdraw (via neteller) they want a scanned copy of my credit card first.  I have yet to so, but will.  With all but the last 4 numbers blanked out as was agreed by Colin via e-mail.  

I have every intention of taking the money out and NO intention of playing on the new site.  If this means I won't get my money, so be it.  I'm ok with that.  Won't make or break me.  But what they've done to blonde, at a time when they needed it most, is just appalling.  PT owes blonde a decent wee chunk of change.  PT thinks doing a runner and starting up under a new name is going to fix things?!  Afraid that isn't the case.  

[Geo the Sarge]

"It maters little to players whether sites have problems with debts which do not effect their money."

Marvellous. As we are about to find out, instances like this affect what we as a site can do, big time

I'm aware of this Rich, however the reality is that players look after their own money first. it's been posted by many all over the forum that there are many of us that would be willing to contribute to ensure that blonde do not suffer.

The line you have highlighted relates to when a site does find itself in trouble.

Geo

[Geo the Sarge]

It maters little to players whether sites have problems with debts which do not effect their money.

I'm sorry Geo, but this time I have to STRONGLY disagree with you!    

They still owe me money.  I deposited via credit card and since I want to withdraw (via neteller) they want a scanned copy of my credit card first.  I have yet to so, but will.  With all but the last 4 numbers blanked out as was agreed by Colin via e-mail.  

I have every intention of taking the money out and NO intention of playing on the new site.  If this means I won't get my money, so be it.  I'm ok with that.  Won't make or break me.  But what they've done to blonde, at a time when they needed it most, is just appalling.  PT owes blonde a decent wee chunk of change.  PT thinks doing a runner and starting up under a new name is going to fix things?!  Afraid that isn't the case.  

Dawn,

I refer to my reply to Tighty.

Yes, they owe you money but once you provide them with the details requested I'm sure they will pay you, again it was clearly posted the reasons why they have requested the details.

Lol, looks like Geo's the next one to be getting it in the neck for not going with the flow.

Geo

[Geo the Sarge]

Does it annoy me that blonde are due £7k? of course it does, however my main priority would be to ensure that my own monies were safe.

I also like this forum, the updates, the blonde bashes, the results service, the articles, the blonde leagues, etc.

And?

[Laxie]

I obviously didn't make my point very clear.  Whilst it is true I am owed, at the end of the day I don't give a toss if they pay me back or not.  I DON'T CARE!!! 

What I do care about is the money they owe the forum.  I've had a great time here and when meeting fellow blondes in person.  Until they have paid BLONDE'S money back, I haven't a notion of playing with PT...or anyone who picks up PT's pieces.

[MANTIS01]

"It maters little to players whether sites have problems with debts which do not effect their money."

You see grandfather dude Geo how you say people are only self-interested....and then say fair play to Col for having a pure heart and not being self-interested...why it doesn't really sit well with me. I don't really believe or trust anyone I don't know...because generally people are indeed out for themselves...unless they prove otherwise. Col telling us how he is getting this 7k squared-up will prove it. Col telling us he will do all he can is lip-service. Yes, I am a cynic but I also support Blonde. If Col understands that RockEm poker will lose a lot more than 7k if all Blonde players boycot the new skin then maybe that 7k will miraculously be forthcoming. Until it is I will suspect Col has a similar mindset to the players you mention above.

[TightEnd]

Does it annoy me that blonde are due £7k? of course it does, however my main priority would be to ensure that my own monies were safe.

I also like this forum, the updates, the blonde bashes, the results service, the articles, the blonde leagues, etc.

And?

which would you like to see disappear? you choose