Did I play this correctly?

[Longy]

Keilan you seem to have massive FPS (fancy play syndrome), i would suggest stop being results orientated and just simplify your game.

In this spot will 11bbs on the button, unless you are trying to induce other players to spazz out when you have a monster. Just smash it in, i would imagine shoving kj is unexploitable in an mtt.

[keilan303]

Keilan you seem to have massive FPS (fancy play syndrome), i would suggest stop being results orientated and just simplify your game.

Interesting term (and not one I was aware of) but yes I think you are right, I definitely seem to fall into this category...the problem is, when it works, it really works...when it doesn't...its fairly obvious why (and I usually look an idiot...) Perhaps I am finding spots sometimes where people are over analyzing situations worse than me and making seriously bad folds against me... :s

When you say "results orientated" are you meaning hand by hand or the game as a whole?

[Longy]

Keilan you seem to have massive FPS (fancy play syndrome), i would suggest stop being results orientated and just simplify your game.

Interesting term (and not one I was aware of) but yes I think you are right, I definitely seem to fall into this category...the problem is, when it works, it really works...when it doesn't...its fairly obvious why (and I usually look an idiot...) Perhaps I am finding spots sometimes where people are over analyzing situations worse than me and making seriously bad folds against me... :s

When you say "results orientated" are you meaning hand by hand or the game as a whole?

More specifically hand by hand, where you seem keen to analyse what went wrong in a certain hand just cos player a had this and player b had that. Instead of looking at the overall picture.

I would suggest doing quite a bit of reading round the internet, including on this board and get an idea for what is the standard play in various situations and work from there. Once you have the basics down, you can then expand your game to trying trickier plays as you will have a greater understanding of why you deviating from the standard line if you know what the standard line is.

[MANTIS01]

I don't agree shoving it in pre is the best play. The guy sitting in the bb has 1,800...so just raise to 1,800. If you do this rather than shove you will represent a stronger hand than you actually have to any good player...eg the bb here, good poker. And you may encourage someone who is playing atc to get involved with a weak hand...eg the sb here, good poker. Obv the other half is going in after the flop. So can anyone give me a good reason why shoving is better than the stop'n'go here?

More importantly I think the level concerns op saying..."Dream flop...but two of us left the casino by the turn...". How is that actually possible? I think it's like that riddle about the chicken, the fox, the seed, and how you can get them all across to the other side of the river if you can only take two at a time. So how can two leave the casino by the turn?

[Longy]

I don't agree shoving it in pre is the best play. The guy sitting in the bb has 1,800...so just raise to 1,800. If you do this rather than shove you will represent a stronger hand than you actually have to any good player...eg the bb here, good poker. And you may encourage someone who is playing atc to get involved with a weak hand...eg the sb here, good poker. Obv the other half is going in after the flop. So can anyone give me a good reason why shoving is better than the stop'n'go here?

More importantly I think the level concerns op saying..."Dream flop...but two of us left the casino by the turn...". How is that actually possible? I think it's like that riddle about the chicken, the fox, the seed, and how you can get them all across to the other side of the river if you can only take two at a time. So how can two leave the casino by the turn?

Cos doing a stop n go in position would be impossible?

Also we a repping a strong hand and a weak hand, a strong hand to the good player and a weak hand to the weak player? That is is some trick.

I don't hate making it 1800 but i think it is essentially the same as shoving.

[MANTIS01]

Also we a repping a strong hand and a weak hand, a strong hand to the good player and a weak hand to the weak player. That is is some trick.

Thankyou

But what about the level riddle.

[AlexMartin]

I don't agree shoving it in pre is the best play. The guy sitting in the bb has 1,800...so just raise to 1,800. If you do this rather than shove you will represent a stronger hand than you actually have to any good player...eg the bb here, good poker. And you may encourage someone who is playing atc to get involved with a weak hand...eg the sb here, good poker. Obv the other half is going in after the flop. So can anyone give me a good reason why shoving is better than the stop'n'go here?

More importantly I think the level concerns op saying..."Dream flop...but two of us left the casino by the turn...". How is that actually possible? I think it's like that riddle about the chicken, the fox, the seed, and how you can get them all across to the other side of the river if you can only take two at a time. So how can two leave the casino by the turn?

good level mate. +1

[Ironside]

other players mkkfish and les?

[keilan303]

other players mkkfish and les?

Was at the other casino....can't remember the woman's name in the BB (think her husbands name is Andy? older couple) and SB was some drunk Aussie...i asked if he'd finally found a hand worth playing when he called the shove "naarrr mate, just gonna hit some fkn cards!!"

Turn - Q
River was always going to be a blank, no point waiting around for it and getting a "sorry mate" from the Q4o champ...

[Ironside]

other players mkkfish and les?

Was at the other casino....can't remember the woman's name in the BB (think her husbands name is Andy? older couple) and SB was some drunk Aussie...i asked if he'd finally found a hand worth playing when he called the shove "naarrr mate, just gonna hit some fkn cards!!"

Turn - Q
River was always going to be a blank, no point waiting around for it and getting a "sorry mate" from the Q4o champ...

andy and caroline?

sure it was an aussie and not the south african dereck

[keilan303]

Think you're right about the first...2nd deff wasnt Dereck, although seen him for first time in ages at the 25NL freezeout on Tuesday...think he was lost without 15 rebuys!

[Ironside]

Think you're right about the first...2nd deff wasnt Dereck, although seen him for first time in ages at the 25NL freezeout on Tuesday...think he was lost without 15 rebuys!

he had 14 odd when he paod me for our fewest rebuy bet and that was with 30 minutes to go on monday

[keilan303]

That's just nuts...I hope for his sake he cashed!!

Out of interest....in one of your blog entries you wrote about the 100 game at the nash and mentioned a player called Andy...is this the same Andy as above?

[Ironside]

That's just nuts...I hope for his sake he cashed!!

Out of interest....in one of your blog entries you wrote about the 100 game at the nash and mentioned a player called Andy...is this the same Andy as above?

same andy


dereck was one of the first out

he has only once cashed afaik he likes to be on the roulette before they break a table after the rebuys