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« on: February 07, 2009, 06:47:15 PM »

What's everybody's view of his run today.He was well beaten on his first run for over 10 month's,imo right handed didnt suit,kempton not his course,needed the run after his heart problem.Now 4/1 for the gold cup.Worth taking the chance ,as he definately wasn't at his best but still beat albertas run by a wide margin ,while the current gold cup fav only beat it by 8 lengths in the king george


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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2009, 06:57:56 PM »

I agree Kempton would not have suited him thats why he never ran in a king george. I would'nt back him for the gold cup after that display. I actually layed him for a place today, gutted i expected joe lively or albertas run to be a lot closer. Don't take anything away from the winner he's an improver, jumped the last like he'd never been in a race.
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2009, 01:06:47 AM »

What's everybody's view of his run today.He was well beaten on his first run for over 10 month's,imo right handed didnt suit,kempton not his course,needed the run after his heart problem.Now 4/1 for the gold cup.Worth taking the chance ,as he definately wasn't at his best but still beat albertas run by a wide margin ,while the current gold cup fav only beat it by 8 lengths in the king george




I lumped on about 5 mins after today's race, 4/1 was massive compared to what was available before the race and Denman should be a lot sharper on Gold Cup day. Needed the run in my opinion and I am happy to take the 4/1 now on offer as I think this is too big.
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2009, 10:32:20 AM »

The actual run itself going the "wrong" way after almost a year's absence was not that bad on the face of it imo.

However the way in which Denman travelled and jumped appeared to me to lack any sort of sparkle whatsoever.

Unfortunately my impression is that he's gone, I hope I'm wrong as he was awesome last year.
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2009, 11:53:56 AM »

I think Paul Nichols face said it all.
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2009, 02:54:12 PM »

The actual run itself going the "wrong" way after almost a year's absence was not that bad on the face of it imo.

However the way in which Denman travelled and jumped appeared to me to lack any sort of sparkle whatsoever.

Unfortunately my impression is that he's gone, I hope I'm wrong as he was awesome last year.

this is where i am

I read Nichols comments on the racingpost website after and he didnt seem at all optimistic about the horse coming on enough for the run in time for Cheltnham, seemed pretty pesemistic actually.

I dont thik the 4/1 is good E/W value at all, the way i see it the horse completely turns himself around and will run them into the ground like last year or if on par with what we saw yesterday will be pulled up, i just cant see them giving him a really hard race if he's not right getting beat 30 lenghts into third by Kuato and some other horse, i think he'll be P/U by then if the jocky sees thats going to be the case, i'd back him to win or not and forget about the E/W value the way i read it cos he'll either trounce em or be walking back a long to the stables a long time after the winners crossed the line.

It's not surprising, Nichols said that they couldnt have run the horse for months after the Cheltnham race how hard it was for him, then having the respiritory problems he's had it's difficult to dee how the horse could come back to anything like what it was producing last year, though it's such a warrior and beast of a horse i was willing to give it a chance and see how it ran yesterday, IMO we got our answer.

TBH i think theres still a lot of question marks about Kauto, esp at chaltnham, i'll have to dig out a bit of value from somwhere i think this year, maybe Exotics turn to finaly do the Business!
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