does anyone agree

[ScottMGee]

Now come on I don't believe your geography can be that bad.

I think you will find that this is down to bad spelling.

[AndrewT]

Yeah there is no ethnic minorities in France or in fact most western european countries, good point.

/ Sarcasam.

1) Are their no 'safe' countries in the whole of Africa?
2) I do not recall there being camps of refugees at Dover desperate to get into France! unlike the Sangat camp

1) Well not many truly safe countries, South Africa and Egypt would probably top the list. Both those countries have internal problems with crime and terroisms. Also both have massive racial problems, where an Ethopian's life would be pretty miserable. The only country that has colonial links with Ethopia is Italy, when Mussolini invaded in the 30's.

That's not really relevant with refugees though is it? The whole thing about being a refugee is that you are fleeing your country because it is absolute hell for you - if you stay your life will be in immediate great peril. In such a situation you'd be glad of the nearest place which is better than wherever you were - if you feel able to pick and choose your new country out of an atlas then maybe you're not a proper refugee but just an economic migrant.

[celtic]

There are more economic migrants in the UK than genuine asylum seekers.

[Grier78]

There are more economic migrants in the UK than genuine asylum seekers.

yes most of them are trained nurses and doctors we have pillaged from Africa.

[boldie]

There are more economic migrants in the UK than genuine asylum seekers.

 

A bit of a "no-shit Sherlock" statement there, mate. There are also tonnes of Brits living abroad who went there to work, or even worse..retire.

Economic migrants keep this country going. They do the shitty jobs you don't want to do...(and when they work in Oil refineries and telecomms because you lot are all lazy, have a bad working attitude and are generally shit at your jobs (and I'm only 75% joking there) )

I also think Andrew is missing the point a bit when it comes to "proper refugees" (what a nasty term that is BTW..it just reeks IMO). There is nothing wrong with going to a country that is not necesarily right next door when your live is in peril....you could move slightly further away to a country of which you speak the language, where you understand the culture and because you think you can build a better life here..by working hard. Does a French Jew need to move to Belgium if he is persecuted? Or can he maybe also move to Holland..or Denmark...Sweden...or even America?


And ..just for the record; I've read this once already and simply have to point out to anyone thinking that immigrants come here simply to claim benefits...let me make this very clear;

You get LESS benefits here than you do in most countries on the continent and the UK is MUCH tougher to claim benefits in. So can we please cut the "They only come here because of our benefit system" out. It is a myth that anyone actually does this....and it's driving me absolutely mental that people are thick enough to claim it. Spouting nonsense about foreigners and generally having bigotted views is one thing. Not knowing your own country is quite another.


I am very happy to be white and from Western Europe or I'd probably be in trouble for "nicking your jobs" or "undercutting British Labour" (something I heard on the radio today from one of the ignoramuses that runs Unite..the biggest bunch of semi-communist, propaganda spouting turds ever to float up from the river of shit that is the union) as they say in Scotland "Get tae F*ck!".

 It always amazes me how the British media and some corners of British society are fine with me coming over here to work but have a problem with the Polish, or someone coming over from Africa to build a better life for themselves.


Yep, happy to be 6"4, blue eyed and (used to have) blonde hair just how the Daily Mail readers..(and the Nazis) like their Arians.

[Karabiner]

Blonde hair

[Graham C]

Blonde hair

[cia260895]

FFs 128 posts and he's got to boldie
















Lightweight 

[gatso]

2) I do not recall there being camps of refugees at Dover desperate to get into France! unlike the Sangat camp

omg, that is without a shadow of a doubt the most incredible thing I have ever read

[ScottMGee]

There are also tonnes of Brits living abroad who went there to work, or even worse..retire.

not sure how hows brits retiring abroad is bad for their new country. They bring over their savings / pensions and start spending it in the new country thereby boosting the economy.

[Longy]

2) I do not recall there being camps of refugees at Dover desperate to get into France! unlike the Sangat camp

omg, that is without a shadow of a doubt the most incredible thing I have ever read

It is still amusing me the thought of a load of refugees from Africa, getting their maps and thinking "How do we get to France to seek a better life", " I know what we will first go right past it, to the UK and then head for Dover".

I tell you what if they are this shrewd maybe they don't have a place in our workforce.

[cambo]

hypothetical question

what if all benefits of all kind stopped tomorrow

what would happen to the uk?

[boldie]

There are also tonnes of Brits living abroad who went there to work, or even worse..retire.

not sure how hows brits retiring abroad is bad for their new country. They bring over their savings / pensions and start spending it in the new country thereby boosting the economy.

By driving up the house prices and generally increasing the cost of living for the poor local smucks that live there, destroying the local culture by bringing their fish and chips and their geraniums over. By being a burden on the local NHS, as soo many old people are. By not intergrating in the local community..they set up their own little colonies and God only knows what they get up to in those.
By not making an effort to speak the language..etc..etc....they simply have no business being there!










See how easy it is to make a stupid bigotted argument?

[boldie]

hypothetical question

what if all benefits of all kind stopped tomorrow

what would happen to the uk?

Most foreigners would be OK as they have a job....whether it'd be a legal or illegal one.

British people would run amock on the streets though and riots would break out in loads of places. Maryhill would probably burn to the ground in the riots.

[cia260895]

I had  a very interesting meet with social services on monday night and the only way that i would be able to get any assistance from them (if the worst was to happen) is to turn up with the boys saying I'm homeless!! without saying it directly she told us it would be the only way to get anywhere, so instead of common sense prevailing and probably costing about £200 a month to arrange transport it looks like I will have to do the radical thing and it would probably cost them £1000,s if i decided to come out of work to make it happen,

obviously i hope it doesnt come to it....

but the benefits system is IMO a complete joke and needs a complete overhaul...