This shouldnt be allowed FACT!!

[kinboshi]

I think you should be more 'outraged' at what is happening in Guantanamo bay rather than soldiers having their feelings hurt.

Torture > Feelings imo

You have the right to get peeved about what you want though.

The greatest Post Flushy has ever made - word-perfect, from my perspective.

I've never attended a public protest in my entire life, but I'd seriously consider doing so (if I thought public protests achieved anything, but they do not) Protesting against G-Bay.

I'm afraid the obsceneties of the G-Bay story will slowly unravel, the torture which we (UK) knew of, but turned a blind eye to, & when the horrors unfold, the net result wil be a huge increase in anti-Western feelings. Then we will have a huge bill to pay, & eveyone will wish the torture, to which most seem apathetic, never happened.

Guantanamo isn't the be all and end all of the US's policy on torture.

Have a read of this:
http://www.counterpunch.org/nairn01262009.html

[tikay]

Great idea to parade soldiers through Luton..

they were local soldiers, bedfordshire regiment

I know. But it's LUTON.

so just cos its a volatile area it shouldnt be allowed?

No no, it should be allowed. But  it was not "advisable", all things considered.

We are getting crossed lines between what should be allowed, what we do or don't agree with, & what is "sensible". They are different things.

Parading homecoming Soldiers, just back from Irag, through Luton, is sheer provocation. But, 100%, it SHOULD be "allowed".

GIQ rules.

[mondatoo]

Out of sight,out of mind

Don't wish to go on my own little rant here but recent media stories about a certain someone has really pissed me off,yeah it's a shame that someone's dying but ffs someones dying in africa every fukn couple seconds so I ain't going to insult there hardship by feeling sorry for one person who i don't know.Oh well guess i couldn't help it.

[RED-DOG]

Everyone seems to be forgetting to end their posts with the word "FACT" in upper case, therefore rendering their opinions less valid. FACT.

[tikay]

Everyone seems to be forgetting to end their posts with the word "FACT" in upper case, therefore rendering their opinions less valid. FACT.

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[Colchester Kev]

Great idea to parade soldiers through Luton..

they were local soldiers, bedfordshire regiment

I know. But it's LUTON.

so just cos its a volatile area it shouldnt be allowed?

No no, it should be allowed. But  it was not "advisable", all things considered.

We are getting crossed lines between what should be allowed, what we do or don't agree with, & what is "sensible". They are different things.

Parading homecoming Soldiers, just back from Irag, through Luton, is sheer provocation.

GIQ rules.

Wow, with respect, but that sentence sums up what is wrong with society as a whole in these times ... Don't parade British Soldiers who have just returned from a tour of duty in a war zone through British streets in case you upset people ... while you are at it, please don't wave the union flag either, we wouldnt want to upset some poor sensitive souls.

Bullshit, British men and women are doing a job of work in very difficult circumstances, putting their lives at risk daily for less money than a call centre worker ... Parade them around the streets of every fkin town and city in the country imo.

And those that protest should be made to leave their cosy homes with central heating and 42" plasma TV's and spend 1 month on tour with the regiment and see what they do.

[Colchester Kev]

Parading homecoming Soldiers, just back from Irag, through Luton, is sheer provocation. But, 100%, it SHOULD be "allowed".

You added that after i ranted .... Changes the whole tone of the post ... sigh

[kinboshi]

Parading homecoming Soldiers, just back from Irag, through Luton, is sheer provocation. But, 100%, it SHOULD be "allowed".

You added that after i ranted .... Changes the whole tone of the post ... sigh

Premature retaliation.

[turny]

Great idea to parade soldiers through Luton..

they were local soldiers, bedfordshire regiment

I know. But it's LUTON.

so just cos its a volatile area it shouldnt be allowed?

No no, it should be allowed. But  it was not "advisable", all things considered.

We are getting crossed lines between what should be allowed, what we do or don't agree with, & what is "sensible". They are different things.

Parading homecoming Soldiers, just back from Irag, through Luton, is sheer provocation.

GIQ rules.

Wow, with respect, but that sentence sums up what is wrong with society as a whole in these times ... Don't parade British Soldiers who have just returned from a tour of duty in a war zone through British streets in case you upset people ... while you are at it, please don't wave the union flag either, we wouldnt want to upset some poor sensitive souls.

Bullshit, British men and women are doing a job of work in very difficult circumstances, putting their lives at risk daily for less money than a call centre worker ... Parade them around the streets of every fkin town and city in the country imo.

And those that protest should be made to leave their cosy homes with central heating and 42" plasma TV's and spend 1 month on tour with the regiment and see what they do.

excellent post kev

[tikay]

Parading homecoming Soldiers, just back from Irag, through Luton, is sheer provocation. But, 100%, it SHOULD be "allowed".

You added that after i ranted .... Changes the whole tone of the post ... sigh

I did not change it after you ranted - your "rant" was 20 minutes subsequent. My Post ALWAYS said "it should be allowed".

My views in this thread have been consistent throughout & everyone is trying the emotional "oh, you can't say that, they are our brave Soldiers".

Which completely misses the, & my, point.

The OP says it should not be allowed. He is wrong. The Law says so, decent people say so, democracy says so, society says so. That's not to say we all agree.

For those struggling, yes, I have 100% respect for our brave servicemen & women. And zero for the idiot Politicians who sent them to war in Iraq.

The Soldiers who Paraded in Luton won't be fussed. They had far worse than insults lobbed at them in Iraq.

[I KNOW IT]

Great idea to parade soldiers through Luton..

they were local soldiers, bedfordshire regiment

I know. But it's LUTON.

so just cos its a volatile area it shouldnt be allowed?

No no, it should be allowed. But  it was not "advisable", all things considered.

We are getting crossed lines between what should be allowed, what we do or don't agree with, & what is "sensible". They are different things.

Parading homecoming Soldiers, just back from Irag, through Luton, is sheer provocation.

GIQ rules.

Wow, with respect, but that sentence sums up what is wrong with society as a whole in these times ... Don't parade British Soldiers who have just returned from a tour of duty in a war zone through British streets in case you upset people ... while you are at it, please don't wave the union flag either, we wouldnt want to upset some poor sensitive souls.

Bullshit, British men and women are doing a job of work in very difficult circumstances, putting their lives at risk daily for less money than a call centre worker ... Parade them around the streets of every fkin town and city in the country imo.

And those that protest should be made to leave their cosy homes with central heating and 42" plasma TV's and spend 1 month on tour with the regiment and see what they do.

excellent post kev

[tikay]

Great idea to parade soldiers through Luton..

they were local soldiers, bedfordshire regiment

I know. But it's LUTON.

so just cos its a volatile area it shouldnt be allowed?

No no, it should be allowed. But  it was not "advisable", all things considered.

We are getting crossed lines between what should be allowed, what we do or don't agree with, & what is "sensible". They are different things.

Parading homecoming Soldiers, just back from Irag, through Luton, is sheer provocation.

GIQ rules.

Wow, with respect, but that sentence sums up what is wrong with society as a whole in these times ... Don't parade British Soldiers who have just returned from a tour of duty in a war zone through British streets in case you upset people ... while you are at it, please don't wave the union flag either, we wouldnt want to upset some poor sensitive souls.

Bullshit, British men and women are doing a job of work in very difficult circumstances, putting their lives at risk daily for less money than a call centre worker ... Parade them around the streets of every fkin town and city in the country imo.

And those that protest should be made to leave their cosy homes with central heating and 42" plasma TV's and spend 1 month on tour with the regiment and see what they do.

I don't believe you have read my Post properly.

Our Soldiers are great, I agree with you 100%, & never said otherwise, but you are implying the contrary.

It's provocative, & not sensible. But it should be allowed. That was the OP's question, & that is my answer.

I'm struggling to se how saying "it should be allowed" (that's the Law), gets put down as a lack of gratitude to our Armed Services.

[turny]

Parading homecoming Soldiers, just back from Irag, through Luton, is sheer provocation. But, 100%, it SHOULD be "allowed".

You added that after i ranted .... Changes the whole tone of the post ... sigh

I did not change it after you ranted - your "rant" was 20 minutes subsequent.

My views in this thread have been consistent throughout & everyone is trying the emotional "oh, you can't say that, they are our brave Soldiers".

Which completely misses the, & my, point.

The OP says it should not be allowed. He is wrong. The Law says so, decent people say so, democracy says so, society says so. That's not to say we all agree.

For those struggling, yes, I have 100% respect for our brave servicemen & women. And zero for the idiot Politicians who sent them to war in Iraq.

The Soldiers who Paraded in Luton won't be fussed. They had far worse than insults lobbed at them in Iraq.

yes they did but not by people who live on british soil and whose rent is more often than not paid for by the soldiers taxes!

[tikay]

Parading homecoming Soldiers, just back from Irag, through Luton, is sheer provocation. But, 100%, it SHOULD be "allowed".

You added that after i ranted .... Changes the whole tone of the post ... sigh

Conveniently omitting the start of my Post, which said "no no, it should be allowed"?

[tikay]

yes they did but not by people who live on british soil and whose rent is more often than not paid for by the soldiers taxes!

Quoted for posterity. That's a purler!