This shouldnt be allowed FACT!!

[tikay]

You can't protect peoples rights and freedoms by denying them rights and freedoms.

I never said deny anyone anything, I said if you want to complain then do it in the right way with the right experience and working knowledge of what is REALLY going on.

I for one am against the current conflicts in the middle east, would i campaign or tell people not to fight the conflict in a certain way?  would I protest against someone doing their job and a service for their country?  No because i don't know whats happened over there, i never lived it, I am tainted by the news media and i don't have a complete understanding of all the facts. i.e. who's being tortured for whatever to save xx many lives.

Let look at this from a different angle,

Parking wardens issue tickets like sweets at a funfare, I have yet to see anyone picketing town and city halls to put a stop to them and they are detested nationally!


These men and women put their lives at risk fighting a war in a far off land for a pittance and they come home to abuse?  Sorry, i think the people protesting should look at who they should direct their attentions to. Also I wonder how many of the people protesting has a credible understanding of what exactly was going on over there that gives them the justification to protest against someone doing their job.


Imagine going to work as a poker pro and as you power up the computer when suddenly 100 anti Gambling activists started hurling abuse and protesting outside your house.

You would tell them to STFU and get a life.

Yes, but that was not the question. The queston in the OP was should these protests be allowed!

The fact that some of us believe that it's our right to protest, & have free speech, does not mean, & never did, that we are not as grateful & respectful to our Armed Forces as we should be, & as you are.

I'm not sure why so many are struggling with those two views. They are not incompatible, not at all. They sit quite comfortably, side by side, in my mind.

[Newmanseye]

You can't protect peoples rights and freedoms by denying them rights and freedoms.

I never said deny anyone anything, I said if you want to complain then do it in the right way with the right experience and working knowledge of what is REALLY going on.

I for one am against the current conflicts in the middle east, would i campaign or tell people not to fight the conflict in a certain way?  would I protest against someone doing their job and a service for their country?  No because i don't know whats happened over there, i never lived it, I am tainted by the news media and i don't have a complete understanding of all the facts. i.e. who's being tortured for whatever to save xx many lives.

Let look at this from a different angle,

Parking wardens issue tickets like sweets at a funfare, I have yet to see anyone picketing town and city halls to put a stop to them and they are detested nationally!


These men and women put their lives at risk fighting a war in a far off land for a pittance and they come home to abuse?  Sorry, i think the people protesting should look at who they should direct their attentions to. Also I wonder how many of the people protesting has a credible understanding of what exactly was going on over there that gives them the justification to protest against someone doing their job.


Imagine going to work as a poker pro and as you power up the computer when suddenly 100 anti Gambling activists started hurling abuse and protesting outside your house.

You would tell them to STFU and get a life.

Yes, but that was not the question. The queston in the OP was should these protests be allowed!

The fact that some of us believe that it's our right to protest, & have free speech, does not mean, & never did, that we are not as grateful & respectful to our Armed Forces as we should be, & as you are.

I'm not sure why so many are struggling with those two views. They are not incompatible, not at all. They sit quite comfortably, side by side, in my mind.

Being fair though Tony, I believe ( i could be wrong ) that protesting does indeed have a time and place.  Although I cant see what the protest was about, Did they not want the soldiers home?  if not send them back for another tour.... so when they come home they get abuse for following orders.

Like i said a few posts back they should have redirected that protest to where it would serve a purpose.

The regiment that just came home were taking verbal abuse from what i could see, All that's happend here is the wrong people got the brunt of a groups views.

As for protests, I think yeah go for it, but organise it, don't do it when I am in traffic and please keep the noise down this is supposed to be a civilised country, shouting only hurts people ears.

[Geo the Sarge]

Tony,

I have been watching this thread as you'd expect, and had a mind not to entertain it with comment. There are many valid points from all who have posted and I have no gripes with any other than your "provocation" comment.

You sir, have insulted the troops more than any with this despicable comment.

A wee bit of background for you.

All Infantry Regiments are linked to their recruiting areas, the areas that have provided men & boys to serve within these Regiments for hundredes of years. 2 Royal Anglian (The Poachers) are recruited largely from this area and as such have been awarded the freedom of various Boroughs/Cities/Towns, one of which is Luton.

Part of this honour of the freedom of the burghs (which would have been bestowed on the Regiment many years ago) is that the Regiment can march freely through the town.

All Regiments do this from time to time and excercise their right to march through these burghs/cities who have graciously bestowed this honour on them.

They do this in order to thank the local people/family/friends for their support when on operations. Much of this support comes from others who, like many of us, are against certain operations.

So to say that their march through their home town which was a thank you to all who have supported them is "provocative" I truly find beyond belief.

"Lets not thank the majority because the minority may be offended" what utter tosh.

Geo

[tikay]

Tony,

I have been watching this thread as you'd expect, and had a mind not to entertain it with comment. There are many valid points from all who have posted and I have no gripes with any other than your "provocation" comment.

You sir, have insulted the troops more than any with this despicable comment.

A wee bit of background for you.

All Infantry Regiments are linked to their recruiting areas, the areas that have provided men & boys to serve within these Regiments for hundredes of years. 2 Royal Anglian (The Poachers) are recruited largely from this area and as such have been awarded the freedom of various Boroughs/Cities/Towns, one of which is Luton.

Part of this honour of the freedom of the burghs (which would have been bestowed on the Regiment many years ago) is that the Regiment can march freely through the town.

All Regiments do this from time to time and excercise their right to march through these burghs/cities who have graciously bestowed this honour on them.

They do this in order to thank the local people/family/friends for their support when on operations. Much of this support comes from others who, like many of us, are against certain operations.

So to say that their march through their home town which was a thank you to all who have supported them is "provocative" I truly find beyond belief.

"Lets not thank the majority because the minority may be offended" what utter tosh.

Geo

I think that's fair comment Geo, but the comment was not "insulting", because, by definition, insults have to be intended, & they are not insults unless they are. You can interpret my words however you wish, but it won't change the meaning.
And you well know it was not my intention to insult our Troops.

The OP stated a "FACT" that protests should not be allowed. That is not a fact at all. Protests ARE allowed.

We might not like them - I certainly did not like this one - but we can't change facts just because we disapprove of them.

[I KNOW IT]

Ban OP imo

[I KNOW IT]

Tony,

I have been watching this thread as you'd expect, and had a mind not to entertain it with comment. There are many valid points from all who have posted and I have no gripes with any other than your "provocation" comment.

You sir, have insulted the troops more than any with this despicable comment.

A wee bit of background for you.

All Infantry Regiments are linked to their recruiting areas, the areas that have provided men & boys to serve within these Regiments for hundredes of years. 2 Royal Anglian (The Poachers) are recruited largely from this area and as such have been awarded the freedom of various Boroughs/Cities/Towns, one of which is Luton.

Part of this honour of the freedom of the burghs (which would have been bestowed on the Regiment many years ago) is that the Regiment can march freely through the town.

All Regiments do this from time to time and excercise their right to march through these burghs/cities who have graciously bestowed this honour on them.

They do this in order to thank the local people/family/friends for their support when on operations. Much of this support comes from others who, like many of us, are against certain operations.

So to say that their march through their home town which was a thank you to all who have supported them is "provocative" I truly find beyond belief.

"Lets not thank the majority because the minority may be offended" what utter tosh.

Geo

Thanks for that Geo. Educational.
My, how the world has changed

[tikay]

Ban OP imo

Can I protest against that?

[I KNOW IT]

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Can I protest against that?

Of cause, Blonde is free

[Colchester Kev]

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Can I protest against that?

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So is Willy

[I KNOW IT]

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Can I protest against that?

Of cause, Blonde is free

So is Willy

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[Colchester Kev]

Ban OP imo

Can I protest against that?

Of cause, Blonde is free

So is Willy

Oi get back to work answering ya pms

Your PM's are sooooooooooooo boring .... anyway, Floppy has taught me how to ignore people 

[turny]

ban on tikay imo  

[thetank]

Tikay's post was sheer provocation, but it should be allowed.

[I KNOW IT]

Ban OP imo

Can I protest against that?

Of cause, Blonde is free

So is Willy

Oi get back to work answering ya pms

Your PM's are sooooooooooooo boring .... anyway, Floppy has taught me how to ignore people 

sorry my bad. i thought you were blondecardroom manager .

[Colchester Kev]

Ban OP imo

Can I protest against that?

Of cause, Blonde is free

So is Willy

Oi get back to work answering ya pms

Your PM's are sooooooooooooo boring .... anyway, Floppy has taught me how to ignore people 

sorry my bad. i thought you were blondecardroom manager .

Vicious rumour mate ... I am cardroom mangler