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The Camel
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Is this Justice?
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March 13, 2009, 06:37:31 PM »
I am about as far away as a person could be from a Daily Mail reading, "lock 'em up and throw away the key" right wing zealot.
But, is this the most lenient sentence in the history of the British Justice system:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7927267.stm
If I had just read the story and they had left out the details of the sentence I would have expected her to get about 15 years.
Thoughts anyone?
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March 13, 2009, 07:42:37 PM »
"When arrested at her home, customs officers found £1.2m of cash in a safe"
mbn. I wonder if I've got a fiver in my jeans somewhere
Not sure what I think about this really. Prob not the best life move for her to have turned them in. There are worse crimes out there and I wouldn't think a prison sentence would have more impact.
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March 13, 2009, 07:45:51 PM »
I've seen a few stories of people convicted for helping drugs barons etc in this country and penalties are not severe for the rewards you can get.(not actually caught smuggling loads though) Fraud is the same.
Powers to seize assets gained from criminal funds are decent but i always think they'll still have enough salted away that siezure won't always be a big deal. If they took those 142 properties it might hurt a bit though.
I wouldn't have expected 15 years to be honest but i would agree that might be more of a deterrent.
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March 13, 2009, 07:46:57 PM »
She didn't deal drugs though, she sold boats to people that did.
and laundered money and looked after some things for them from time to time.
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March 13, 2009, 08:03:38 PM »
Compared to three years for thowring a shoe it does seem a bit lenient.
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Quote from: Silo Graham on March 13, 2009, 07:42:37 PM
"When arrested at her home, customs officers found £1.2m of cash in a safe"
mbn. I wonder if I've got a fiver in my jeans somewhere
Not sure what I think about this really. Prob not the best life move for her to have turned them in. There are worse crimes out there and I wouldn't think a prison sentence would have more impact.
This a perfect "deterrent" case imo..
Someone sees her sentence and thinks, if that's all she gets for that crime.. it's worth doing.
Risk/reward etc etc
Putting away drug addicts who deal to fund their own habits is virtually no deterrent.. totally different to this crime.
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March 13, 2009, 08:20:44 PM »
I'm not really sure what there is to deter people from here. It's not like you can apply for the job of supplying to dealers, I guess they find you. Not all of her money would have come from that anyway. I guess it is a bit of a let off.
Just read again, sounds like she knew she was in the shit and co-operated a bit. Husband buggered off, pleaded guilty, sounds like she was behaved when the time was right. Perhaps she's putting the dealers down, now that would be a good thing and worth a let off.
In this situation, it was worth the risk. I expect if some drug dealers want to buy lots of expensive trophies, I'd probably supply them!
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Quote from: Silo Graham on March 13, 2009, 08:20:44 PM
I'm not really sure what there is to deter people from here. It's not like you can apply for the job of supplying to dealers, I guess they find you. Not all of her money would have come from that anyway. I guess it is a bit of a let off.
In this situation, it was worth the risk. I expect if some drug dealers want to buy lots of expensive trophies, I'd probably supply them!
Can I order 50 trophies please, engraved with the following:
"Dealer of the month"
"Laundry champion"
"Driver of the year"
"Best mule"
"No1 Grower"
"Heaviest heavy"
"Worlds best boss"
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Quote from: Grier78 on March 13, 2009, 08:31:22 PM
"Worlds best boss"
LOL, we've done a couple of these before
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March 13, 2009, 09:27:09 PM »
I remember the girl who used to deal me marijuana (when I was 18 and into such things.)
You'd phone her up any time, 24 hours a day, and she'd drive to your door with some pretty good shit quicker than if you'd ordered a pizza.
I woulda bought her a trophy. Superstar dealer she was.
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Never too late Tank
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March 13, 2009, 09:29:30 PM »
Big bronze hash leaf on a plynth plz. I'll be round for it in the morning.
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March 13, 2009, 09:31:47 PM »
I give up on sentences dished out these days, complete joke.
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March 13, 2009, 10:24:26 PM »
Quote from: The Camel on March 13, 2009, 08:08:37 PM
Quote from: Silo Graham on March 13, 2009, 07:42:37 PM
"When arrested at her home, customs officers found £1.2m of cash in a safe"
mbn. I wonder if I've got a fiver in my jeans somewhere
Not sure what I think about this really. Prob not the best life move for her to have turned them in. There are worse crimes out there and I wouldn't think a prison sentence would have more impact.
This a perfect "deterrent" case imo..
Someone sees her sentence and thinks, if that's all she gets for that crime.. it's worth doing.
Risk/reward etc etc
Putting away drug addicts who deal to fund their own habits is virtually no deterrent.. totally different to this crime.
this.
I'm a liberal by most people's standards but this is just a ridiculous sentence.
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Re: Is this Justice?
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March 13, 2009, 10:46:33 PM »
Re. the story
How does stuffing all your dosh into a mattress in the spare room constitute money laundering?
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