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« on: March 16, 2009, 08:33:00 PM »

Shove as per a normal SNG or does the situation/stack sizes of the other players say fold in DON strategies, with the reraiser covering me?

$20.00+$1.60 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/03/16 15:42:17 ET
Table '148438104 1' 10-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: TheROCK1989 (1710 in chips)
Seat 2: hebuzy (2960 in chips)
Seat 3: happymill88 (375 in chips)
Seat 4: Knallworscht (1930 in chips)
Seat 5: Prewie (1480 in chips)
Seat 6: DontRaiseAA (1070 in chips)
Seat 7: DesInAK (3965 in chips)
Seat 10: sharky2323 (1510 in chips)
TheROCK1989: posts the ante 10
hebuzy: posts the ante 10
happymill88: posts the ante 10
Knallworscht: posts the ante 10
Prewie: posts the ante 10
DontRaiseAA: posts the ante 10
DesInAK: posts the ante 10
sharky2323: posts the ante 10
Prewie: posts small blind 50
DontRaiseAA: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Prewie [ ]
DesInAK: folds
sharky2323: folds
TheROCK1989: raises 300 to 400
hebuzy: folds
happymill88: folds
Knallworscht: raises 300 to 700
Prewie: ?

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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2009, 08:46:26 PM »

Reads?

QQ is right on the tipping point for me, ak and jj i muck and get it in with kk+.
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2009, 09:26:10 PM »

anyone here shove pre?
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2009, 09:38:00 PM »

anyone here shove pre?

Well i am either shoving or folding. Mainly dependent on the 3 bettor.
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2009, 10:01:55 PM »

in a DON this is a fold.

I'm only not passing KK/AA.
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2009, 10:40:37 PM »

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QQ is right on the tipping point for me, ak and jj i muck and get it in with kk+.

the re-raiser is taggy, not been at all out of line so far, as much as you can tell about anyone in these DONs which tend to play tight all round and then bubble shoving by all and sundry
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2009, 10:58:20 PM »

I find more calls to a raise and jam than a raise and min reraise in a DON.

muck quickly imo
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2009, 11:30:50 PM »

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QQ is right on the tipping point for me, ak and jj i muck and get it in with kk+.

the re-raiser is taggy, not been at all out of line so far, as much as you can tell about anyone in these DONs which tend to play tight all round and then bubble shoving by all and sundry

Looks like a fold then.
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2009, 02:10:48 AM »

easy fold
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2009, 02:33:49 AM »

I like the fold, but I think it's pretty tough.

Good analysis hand this one.
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2009, 10:06:21 AM »

I am not sure why, as I  normally fold this in this format, but I shoved. This is a mistake (irrespective of result) I think as with seven left we have one stack in the dead zone and one stack of 1000, we don't need to risk a flip or running into KK+ until the two lower stacks have made their decisive moves

I was extremely surprised when JJ called me, I have to be beating that to shove over raise and min-reraise right?

Prewie: raises 770 to 1470 and is all-in
DontRaiseAA: folds
TheROCK1989: folds
Knallworscht: calls 770

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Prewie: shows [ ]
Knallworscht: shows [ ]

this led me to think

- In these $20s, and maybe the $50s DONs whether I am giving far too much credit and folding many winning spots. Or if this is just an isolated instance .


p.s 50p..he spiked a Jack lol 
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2009, 11:54:41 AM »

What's DON?
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2009, 11:55:53 AM »

What's DON?

Double Or Nothing
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2009, 11:56:51 AM »

What's DON?

Don't overplay non-nutholdings.
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2009, 12:17:23 PM »


Ahh.  I hate abbreviations.
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