DTD deep into tourney

[paulhouk03]

theres two more hands but i cant be arsed to create another topic so i will just do it here.
the tables are pretty tight seems like its in pushbot mode for alot of people.
17 players left
blinds 400 800  i have about 12k
i pick up AK in mp raise to 2.3k
button insta jams
bb quickly calls
?
both have me covered


11 players left
1k2k blinds
i have about 15k

big stack limps
button shoves for 7k
I have KQ
Do I flat?
Reraise?
fold?

[boldie]

hand 1 Call.
Hand 2 I take it you're BB here? either fold or push..either way is fine for me.

[paulhouk03]

hand 1 Call.
Hand 2 I take it you're BB here? either fold or push..either way is fine for me.

i was sb
would u notcall and try and see a "safe"flop

[EvilPie]

hand 1 Call.
Hand 2 I take it you're BB here? either fold or push..either way is fine for me.

i was sb
would u notcall and try and see a "safe"flop

Hand 1 is a pass for me. At best you're up against 2 under pairs so are 50 50 although between them there a much increased chance of hitting a set.

At worst you're up against KK or AA but let's not worry about that.

Middle situation is an under pair and the other guy has some of your outs.

Yes you got good pot odds but personally I'm looking for a better spot.



Hand 2 is never a flat call. What if the big stack shoves? Are you snapping him off or passing? I'd guess you're passing.

What do you class as a safe flop for KQ?

So yes like the Bold one says shove or pass. Either way just depends how you feel. Flatting is spewy.

[GreekStein]

Hand 1 I instacall, we're playing to win, not creep into 8th.

Hand 2. What position does big stack limp from? Has be been tight or loose? Answering these questions will help you know whether its a shove or a pass imo.

[paulhouk03]

Hand 1 I instacall, we're playing to win, not creep into 8th.

Hand 2. What position does big stack limp from? Has be been tight or loose? Answering these questions will help you know whether its a shove or a pass imo.

big stack was 2 from the button the hijack? is that whatthey call it now

he just seems to be limping or shoving preflop when he does raise(rarely) its like 6BB
he has been drinking heavily

[GreekStein]

Hand 1 I instacall, we're playing to win, not creep into 8th.

Hand 2. What position does big stack limp from? Has be been tight or loose? Answering these questions will help you know whether its a shove or a pass imo.

big stack was 2 from the button the hijack? is that whatthey call it now

he just seems to be limping or shoving preflop when he does raise(rarely) its like 6BB
he has been drinking heavily

in that case, get it in

[Rookie (Rodney)]

Hahahaha, com. Get them in on both hands plz.

[The Camel]

Hand 1. Call.

Hand 2. Fold.

[MC]

Get them in on both hands plz.

+1

[paulhouk03]

well the first ifolded the button had 44 and the bb had jj spanked a j on the flop

the reason i folded was button insta jammed and then 3 secs later the bb calls

i dont think AK is that strong 3way

one of the two will have a pair. i could be up against KK AA(unlikely). if one of the shovers has aq ak i am not in that good shape vs the PP


the second hand was not me inthe SB it was the the same guy that pushed with 44
i couldnt believe that he would just flat call with KQ
he said he wanted to hit a flop and win a 20k pot. terrible thinking IMO

I woulda pushed or folded in his situation
u dont want to be  check fold on a missed flop

ooh well 5 hours of tourny and finished 11th weeeeeeee