This Deserves More Exposure Than Sports Forum!!

[Laxie]

tl;dr   but we're done now, yeah?

Guess not. 

[sledge13]

ARSEnals.

[dousche]

1. The Greek Cypriot supporters who were "riled" by the sight of another supporter's national flag were guilty of racism....not the flag.

That is just wrong you see given the flag they were waiting does not represent any country at all, Northern Cyprus is not a nation therefore can't have a national flag.

Some would say the same thing about the Palestine flag.

some would. but are the terraces the place to be making political statements with no bearing on football?

[dan]

This really is a load of pish.  If I were a Gunners fan and English I'd be outraged at this.

Im a arsenal fan and im english and a season ticket holder but i couldnt give a fuck, let alone be outraged.

If someone wants to put an england flag up go and watch an england game, why do we want an england flag up at a premiership game. I dont even support the English national team, as I have said so before, but that is another argument im sure.

TBH I hate international football, I would rather it was scrapped. There is an international break now where the national team is playing 2 games, 2 games ffs and 1 of those is a fucking friendly. At this stage of the season players are playing twice a week who really wants to play an international friendly.

[vinni]

I'm not getting involved ill be classed as a racist

[phatomch]

same here

[paulhouk03]

This really is a load of pish.  If I were a Gunners fan and English I'd be outraged at this.

http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/sport/4217987.Blackburn_Rovers_fans_St_George_s_flag_confiscated_in__racist_symbol__row/

STEWARDS confiscated football fans’ 10ft flag of St. George, claiming it could be viewed as a ‘racist symbol’.

The group of Blackburn Rovers supporters said they were left stunned by the actions of the officials at Arsenal’s Emirates Stadium.

A Blackburn councillor, who is deputy chairman of national patriotic group the Royal Society of St George, said the ‘ridiculous move’ had prevented the fans ‘showing pride in their country’.

Arsenal FC said it had decided to ban all national flags following a row over a fan’s Turkish Cypriot flag in 2006.

Supporters from the Havelock Inn, Havelock Street, Mill Hill, unfurled their English flag, emblazoned with “Havelock Blues”, at the stadium before Saturday’s game.

David Iley, 24, of Bamber Bridge, a regular at the pub who arranged for the flag to be made, said: “When we got there we started putting it out, and the steward came up and told us we couldn’t.

“It never entered my head at first that the St George Cross wasn’t allowed. I thought it was just that we couldn’t put it there.

“So we hooked it over the hoardings at the front instead, and the next thing we know a steward was taking it away, saying it could be seen as a racist symbol.

“I couldn’t believe it. When we took it to Hull the stewards even helped us put it up. It’s the national flag and its absolutely stupid that Arsenal should ban it.”

Since it was made just a month ago, the flag had already travelled Hull and Fulham with the pub fans with no problems.

Spokesmen for Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool all confirmed that national flags were allowed at their home grounds .

Coun Williams slammed Arsenal.

He said: “We are planning a St George extravaganza on April 23, and giving out St George’s flags all over town, and yet we have those same English flags being confiscated. It’s ridiculous.

“The one thing we want people to be proud of is being English and people are taking more and more pride in their country.

“These people were expressing that pride in the right way, just like they should be able to do at any time and certainly at any national event.”

An Arsenal spokesman said the ban related a row in December 2006.

An Arsenal Turkish Cypriot season ticket holder riled Greek Cypriot fans by displaying his flag.

As a result, all national flags are now banned at the stadium.

Dan Tolhurst, communications manager at Arsenal, said: “Arsenal as a club prides itself on being inclusive with respect to all nationalities, cultural and ethnic groups.

“We have therefore decided that in order for all of our fans to enjoy their experience at Emirates Stadium, we are asking that only flags without any national emblems, are displayed within the stadium.”

He added that the ban was lifted for international matches at the ground.”

John Newsham, stadium safety manager at Blackburn Rovers, said: “We would never comment on the policy of other clubs in relation to flags.

“We have an open approach, providing the flags meet set criteria. For example, flags are vetted for any inappropriate wording which may be considered offensive by the club or any spectators and they must not be draped over emergency exit signs or advertising hoardings.”

Why do you not consider yourself as BRITISH?

[GlasgowBandit]

This really is a load of pish.  If I were a Gunners fan and English I'd be outraged at this.

http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/sport/4217987.Blackburn_Rovers_fans_St_George_s_flag_confiscated_in__racist_symbol__row/

STEWARDS confiscated football fans’ 10ft flag of St. George, claiming it could be viewed as a ‘racist symbol’.

The group of Blackburn Rovers supporters said they were left stunned by the actions of the officials at Arsenal’s Emirates Stadium.

A Blackburn councillor, who is deputy chairman of national patriotic group the Royal Society of St George, said the ‘ridiculous move’ had prevented the fans ‘showing pride in their country’.

Arsenal FC said it had decided to ban all national flags following a row over a fan’s Turkish Cypriot flag in 2006.

Supporters from the Havelock Inn, Havelock Street, Mill Hill, unfurled their English flag, emblazoned with “Havelock Blues”, at the stadium before Saturday’s game.

David Iley, 24, of Bamber Bridge, a regular at the pub who arranged for the flag to be made, said: “When we got there we started putting it out, and the steward came up and told us we couldn’t.

“It never entered my head at first that the St George Cross wasn’t allowed. I thought it was just that we couldn’t put it there.

“So we hooked it over the hoardings at the front instead, and the next thing we know a steward was taking it away, saying it could be seen as a racist symbol.

“I couldn’t believe it. When we took it to Hull the stewards even helped us put it up. It’s the national flag and its absolutely stupid that Arsenal should ban it.”

Since it was made just a month ago, the flag had already travelled Hull and Fulham with the pub fans with no problems.

Spokesmen for Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool all confirmed that national flags were allowed at their home grounds .

Coun Williams slammed Arsenal.

He said: “We are planning a St George extravaganza on April 23, and giving out St George’s flags all over town, and yet we have those same English flags being confiscated. It’s ridiculous.

“The one thing we want people to be proud of is being English and people are taking more and more pride in their country.

“These people were expressing that pride in the right way, just like they should be able to do at any time and certainly at any national event.”

An Arsenal spokesman said the ban related a row in December 2006.

An Arsenal Turkish Cypriot season ticket holder riled Greek Cypriot fans by displaying his flag.

As a result, all national flags are now banned at the stadium.

Dan Tolhurst, communications manager at Arsenal, said: “Arsenal as a club prides itself on being inclusive with respect to all nationalities, cultural and ethnic groups.

“We have therefore decided that in order for all of our fans to enjoy their experience at Emirates Stadium, we are asking that only flags without any national emblems, are displayed within the stadium.”

He added that the ban was lifted for international matches at the ground.”

John Newsham, stadium safety manager at Blackburn Rovers, said: “We would never comment on the policy of other clubs in relation to flags.

“We have an open approach, providing the flags meet set criteria. For example, flags are vetted for any inappropriate wording which may be considered offensive by the club or any spectators and they must not be draped over emergency exit signs or advertising hoardings.”

Why do you not consider yourself as BRITISH?

Its not about what I or anyone else considers themselves to be, but its a sad day that when an English team's fans can't take the flag of their country to the football.  If the flag was offensive fair enough, but I don't see how anyone can be upset about the flag of St George at an English ground where an English team play.

And for the record I am not English.

[Royal Flush]

This really is a load of pish.  If I were a Gunners fan and English I'd be outraged at this.

http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/sport/4217987.Blackburn_Rovers_fans_St_George_s_flag_confiscated_in__racist_symbol__row/

STEWARDS confiscated football fans’ 10ft flag of St. George, claiming it could be viewed as a ‘racist symbol’.

The group of Blackburn Rovers supporters said they were left stunned by the actions of the officials at Arsenal’s Emirates Stadium.

A Blackburn councillor, who is deputy chairman of national patriotic group the Royal Society of St George, said the ‘ridiculous move’ had prevented the fans ‘showing pride in their country’.

Arsenal FC said it had decided to ban all national flags following a row over a fan’s Turkish Cypriot flag in 2006.

Supporters from the Havelock Inn, Havelock Street, Mill Hill, unfurled their English flag, emblazoned with “Havelock Blues”, at the stadium before Saturday’s game.

David Iley, 24, of Bamber Bridge, a regular at the pub who arranged for the flag to be made, said: “When we got there we started putting it out, and the steward came up and told us we couldn’t.

“It never entered my head at first that the St George Cross wasn’t allowed. I thought it was just that we couldn’t put it there.

“So we hooked it over the hoardings at the front instead, and the next thing we know a steward was taking it away, saying it could be seen as a racist symbol.

“I couldn’t believe it. When we took it to Hull the stewards even helped us put it up. It’s the national flag and its absolutely stupid that Arsenal should ban it.”

Since it was made just a month ago, the flag had already travelled Hull and Fulham with the pub fans with no problems.

Spokesmen for Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool all confirmed that national flags were allowed at their home grounds .

Coun Williams slammed Arsenal.

He said: “We are planning a St George extravaganza on April 23, and giving out St George’s flags all over town, and yet we have those same English flags being confiscated. It’s ridiculous.

“The one thing we want people to be proud of is being English and people are taking more and more pride in their country.

“These people were expressing that pride in the right way, just like they should be able to do at any time and certainly at any national event.”

An Arsenal spokesman said the ban related a row in December 2006.

An Arsenal Turkish Cypriot season ticket holder riled Greek Cypriot fans by displaying his flag.

As a result, all national flags are now banned at the stadium.

Dan Tolhurst, communications manager at Arsenal, said: “Arsenal as a club prides itself on being inclusive with respect to all nationalities, cultural and ethnic groups.

“We have therefore decided that in order for all of our fans to enjoy their experience at Emirates Stadium, we are asking that only flags without any national emblems, are displayed within the stadium.”

He added that the ban was lifted for international matches at the ground.”

John Newsham, stadium safety manager at Blackburn Rovers, said: “We would never comment on the policy of other clubs in relation to flags.

“We have an open approach, providing the flags meet set criteria. For example, flags are vetted for any inappropriate wording which may be considered offensive by the club or any spectators and they must not be draped over emergency exit signs or advertising hoardings.”

Why do you not consider yourself as BRITISH?

Its not about what I or anyone else considers themselves to be, but its a sad day that when an English team's fans can't take the flag of their country to the football.  If the flag was offensive fair enough, but I don't see how anyone can be upset about the flag of St George at an English ground where an English team play.

And for the record I am not English.

You are British though

[Rod Paradise]

 

[kinboshi]

This really is a load of pish.  If I were a Gunners fan and English I'd be outraged at this.

Im a arsenal fan and im english and a season ticket holder but i couldnt give a fuck, let alone be outraged.

If someone wants to put an england flag up go and watch an england game, why do we want an england flag up at a premiership game. I dont even support the English national team, as I have said so before, but that is another argument im sure.

TBH I hate international football, I would rather it was scrapped. There is an international break now where the national team is playing 2 games, 2 games ffs and 1 of those is a fucking friendly. At this stage of the season players are playing twice a week who really wants to play an international friendly.

The international break is bad enough at this critical part of the season, but to have a friendly as well is absolutely ludicrous.

[TightEnd]

In a complete farce we have a league game this weekend yet two of our lads are unavailable as they are playing in U21 friendlies

marvellous


Will drag this thread back to the sports forum by hook or by crook I will.

[cia260895]

when will the day come when opposing teams supporters are refused to wear their colours as not to upset/antagonise the home supporters..

[TheChipPrince]

In a complete farce we have a league game this weekend yet two of our lads are unavailable as they are playing in U21 friendlies

marvellous


Will drag this thread back to the sports forum by hook or by crook I will.

The '3 away' rule applies to the league only, Wrexham have 4 away on international duty and their game hasn't been postponed yet, count yourself lucky!

[GlasgowBandit]

This really is a load of pish.  If I were a Gunners fan and English I'd be outraged at this.

http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/sport/4217987.Blackburn_Rovers_fans_St_George_s_flag_confiscated_in__racist_symbol__row/

STEWARDS confiscated football fans’ 10ft flag of St. George, claiming it could be viewed as a ‘racist symbol’.

The group of Blackburn Rovers supporters said they were left stunned by the actions of the officials at Arsenal’s Emirates Stadium.

A Blackburn councillor, who is deputy chairman of national patriotic group the Royal Society of St George, said the ‘ridiculous move’ had prevented the fans ‘showing pride in their country’.

Arsenal FC said it had decided to ban all national flags following a row over a fan’s Turkish Cypriot flag in 2006.

Supporters from the Havelock Inn, Havelock Street, Mill Hill, unfurled their English flag, emblazoned with “Havelock Blues”, at the stadium before Saturday’s game.

David Iley, 24, of Bamber Bridge, a regular at the pub who arranged for the flag to be made, said: “When we got there we started putting it out, and the steward came up and told us we couldn’t.

“It never entered my head at first that the St George Cross wasn’t allowed. I thought it was just that we couldn’t put it there.

“So we hooked it over the hoardings at the front instead, and the next thing we know a steward was taking it away, saying it could be seen as a racist symbol.

“I couldn’t believe it. When we took it to Hull the stewards even helped us put it up. It’s the national flag and its absolutely stupid that Arsenal should ban it.”

Since it was made just a month ago, the flag had already travelled Hull and Fulham with the pub fans with no problems.

Spokesmen for Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool all confirmed that national flags were allowed at their home grounds .

Coun Williams slammed Arsenal.

He said: “We are planning a St George extravaganza on April 23, and giving out St George’s flags all over town, and yet we have those same English flags being confiscated. It’s ridiculous.

“The one thing we want people to be proud of is being English and people are taking more and more pride in their country.

“These people were expressing that pride in the right way, just like they should be able to do at any time and certainly at any national event.”

An Arsenal spokesman said the ban related a row in December 2006.

An Arsenal Turkish Cypriot season ticket holder riled Greek Cypriot fans by displaying his flag.

As a result, all national flags are now banned at the stadium.

Dan Tolhurst, communications manager at Arsenal, said: “Arsenal as a club prides itself on being inclusive with respect to all nationalities, cultural and ethnic groups.

“We have therefore decided that in order for all of our fans to enjoy their experience at Emirates Stadium, we are asking that only flags without any national emblems, are displayed within the stadium.”

He added that the ban was lifted for international matches at the ground.”

John Newsham, stadium safety manager at Blackburn Rovers, said: “We would never comment on the policy of other clubs in relation to flags.

“We have an open approach, providing the flags meet set criteria. For example, flags are vetted for any inappropriate wording which may be considered offensive by the club or any spectators and they must not be draped over emergency exit signs or advertising hoardings.”

Why do you not consider yourself as BRITISH?

Its not about what I or anyone else considers themselves to be, but its a sad day that when an English team's fans can't take the flag of their country to the football.  If the flag was offensive fair enough, but I don't see how anyone can be upset about the flag of St George at an English ground where an English team play.

And for the record I am not English.

You are British though

Dual nationality tyvm sir.