£100nl Live Hand

[gribbo]

This is a hand that one of my mates played and we have argued/discussed it a lot regarding how he played it etc. Would like some opinions of you guys.

He is playing just over £200 so 200bb deep and the opponent has him covered. My mate is a very solid TAG player who hardly gets out of line much and generally makes profit in these games.

Opponent is more of an aggresive player both pre and post flop but I have rarely seen him making a massive bluff being caught out etc from what ive played against him, he is a smart player and prob views my mate same as I do.

They were playing 7-8 handed and my mate was in SB with and opponent is cutoff and opens to £4, my mate re-popped him to £17 and he called.

Around £33 in pot on flop.

Flop     

My mate led for £20 got raised to £60 called.

Turn was  mate checked opponent bet £55 and my mate stuck the rest in.

How would u lot have played AA in this situation?

[dousche]

hmm.... if we split opponents range into hands we beat (QQ, KK, AJ, bluff) and hands we dont (55, 88, JJ) we can get a pretty decent picture of where we are in the hand. i think he's in good shape and so the river shove is fine - i cant see him passing any of the hands we beat other than a bluff for 75 more. also, i dont see 55 being that much a part of his range as he's relatively likely to have called pre rather than the raise. given that the opponent is aggressive i think this line is fine and i like the flat call of the raise on the flop. however i think we are shown 88 and JJ an annoying amount of the time!

on the flop we have 10x the pot left and in my experience thats small enough to be willing to commit to the pot in live .5-1 - in other words i wouldnt consider it a big mistake to go broke to sets here

[Longy]

I really like your mates line and think he played it well.

Standard pre and like flatting the flop to induce jx to thinking he is good here, especially on such a dry board. Then once villian leads the turn he is pretty much pot committed so putting the rest in is good.

[paulhouk03]

i like

[gribbo]

He got it all in on the turn and the guy snapped him with a set of 5's. What i was arguing with mate was that a high% of the time he is going to get shown a set here esp with the action.

I don't think the villian raises a jack on the flop for value and my mate is not the type of guy who would reraise with 88/99 and 2-3 barrel. At most maybe a C-bet with ak. As we are all students aswell even the villian £200+ is a decent bit of money to lose/bluff off even if we r only playing £0.5/1.

[daviebhoy]

I would probably have slowed down on the turn and tried to keep pot as small as possible but your mate can't fold here and is likely to go broke if he is beat. As Douche says we are in good shape against his range but there isn't that much in it. Slowing down gives opponent a chance to bluff off all his chips with something like AK aswell.

[Jamier-Host]

He got it all in on the turn and the guy snapped him with a set of 5's. What i was arguing with mate was that a high% of the time he is going to get shown a set here esp with the action.

I don't think the villian raises a jack on the flop for value and my mate is not the type of guy who would reraise with 88/99 and 2-3 barrel. At most maybe a C-bet with ak. As we are all students aswell even the villian £200+ is a decent bit of money to lose/bluff off even if we r only playing £0.5/1.

So are you saying you want to pass the flop or the turn?

[daviebhoy]

If the £200 is an issue then your mate probably shouldn't have been playing in the game until he had the proper bankroll. Online I find a fold here against a lot of opponents due to the fuzz rule but live in a home game against your mates you should be able to work out what the right thing is to do here. Against an unknown to all of us here then you probably have to go broke.

[Ironside]

i never fold here boards too dry and he has set up he has set up

but more often than not you against QJ KJ AQ QQ KK  JT

running into a set is unlucky but thats poker

and hey he is only 24-1 to make a better set with 1 card to come

[dousche]

our opponents line is one that id take every time with    - ESPECIALLY in a student game (fwiw i am a student and have played in student games) - if we think our opponent is any good

Opponent is more of an aggresive player both pre and post flop but I have rarely seen him making a massive bluff being caught out etc from what ive played against him, he is a smart player and prob views my mate same as I do.

then we have to get it in here. i make a similer bluff when checked to on the turn with absolute air. tell ur mate he's unlucky

[gribbo]

douche funny u say that i played on a  exactly the same last night in the same game as this one.

This gameis in casino so u get a mix of players. I felt that when the vill raises my mate on the flop it is a set a v high% of the time obv his is exploitable if he is only raising with masive hands and the occasional draw but the only draw on the board is 910 a Q10 etc. Its hard to explain and describe hands and players on pha board but i just felt that the oppo in the hand is never raising and betting into my mate without a set as my mate is a tight player and turning up with a big pair most of the time here. Plus the board is so dry.
Yea i think he an get away from it on the turn eventhough he only has £100. If both of them had been playing <100bb deep then i would have no argument for him getting it in.

For the br management part i mean ffs its 0.5/1 live depending how the game is my mate usually buys in for around £40-50 and try's to build a stack up, i think the majority of guys playing live are playing out of there 'bankroll' a lot of time.

These games are fairly soft and def worth taking a shot playing if you can stomach/afford to lose 50-80 quid.